Here's there thing about statistics they're unreliable and easily manipulated. That not only goes for the ones used by feminists to point out how "corrupt and abusive" all men are, how toxic masculinity is and how men are the abandoning their families in mass numbers, but those used to justify those men who are the catalysts for their family disintrsting and saying It's not us men L-rd it those women you gave us, as well. Everyone who puts out a census has a bias that they're trying to prove. They ask feeler questions and if you answer appropriately then they ask the subject question. They ask only a small portion of certain demographics. People are willing to search through conflicting statistics until they find one that vindicates their bias and use the ones they beleive to discredit other statistics as inaccurate and bias. We haven't changed from Adam. They haven't changed from Eve either. So Im just going off what Ive personally seen. That is, some men are kicked out of their families but some choose to leave. Its also not rare for boys to learn that being a man and that having a family is hard and walk away from both early in the marriage. Lack of leaderdhip, whether it is a refusal to step up or a refusal to accept is the cause I've seen for the majority if to be dissolved by families in divorce AND I've seen it in about equal measures. Infidelity is rampant by both men and women. I'm not talking just talking about adultry but breaking the vow to forsake all others. I know I'm not the only one who finds it tiresome that in just about every thread, someone has to find a way to make it about feminism and how women are at fault for every thing. It's become vogue to get upset when a guy plays the white night for a woman, but it's perfectly acceptable to play the white knight when someone suggest that men should be held accountable aswell. Oh no someone is saying that men should be accountable, sound the trumpets and charge, let's obfuscate the fact that men are held to a higher accountability by scripture. There's a difference between fighting injustice and trying to justify something. If your constantly trying to justify something then its like your trying to cover a stench of rot by constantly spraying perfume. Sometimes the perfume stinks as much if not more than the rot. It apperars that from one side of our mouths we're condemning disinformation and women not being held acountable and from the others side we're using disinformation and justifying men not being accountable. That is hypocrisy. I used to tell people hey if want a better understanding of Polygyny check out Biblical Families. The folks there are true believers and are don't make assumptions to condemn others. So many of the people I've direct here (alot of family and friends) have asked why are some of the men even on the forum, it's obvious they hate women, or I thought you said they don't condemn others. I got tired of explaining that not all of the guys beleive that women are solely responsible for everything going wrong and they dont hate women and are trying to dodge accountability and blame the world's problems on women, to turn around to see post that basically says we do do blame women for everything and men aren't accountable, by the way my name is Adam and it's not my fault it's my wife's fault. It's why I stopped telling anyone to check out Biblical Families. You can throw up what ever statics you like, I'll stick with personal experience. What if seen in the relationships of friends, family and associates. What I've seen in the men's ministries I've been involved in. Yes feminism is an problem that needs to be adressed but what benefit is relating all most every thread to it. You take away from the subject at hand. Here we are on a thread someone posted about courtship and dating, blaming everything wrong in this culture on feminism when it's just a symptom of the disease. Where G-d is barred demons will hold sway.
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One of the professors was from my university (Christian) and my prof for law. She gave me my only B in college for a final grade in her class, yet all my papers and tests were 100. I sent her a text, “Thank you for validating my argument even more. I will use this in the future.” No reply. In fact, one of the Supreme Court justices admited his wife and daughter persuaded him to vote for abortion. That’s bad law!! Nope, can’t remember the name. I can just see his face. Nothing thrills this old man more than when you read it right to them or present the facts and draw a logical conclusion and their response is, “You’re an idiot!” If ya want a good laugh, look up SNL on YouTube with Jane Curtain and Dan Ackroyd “Point Counter Point.” They are joking but today, these are what many think a valid argument is. Excuse the crudeness. “Jane you ignorant . . .” 
