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If I am at a low'ish level immune to central nervous system stimulants (cup of coffee right before bed sort of thing), why is it the the ritual of the cup or two of coffee is so important to starting my day?
Because caffeine orders liver to release emergency reserves of sugar.

Nothing to wake you up like feeling we are under attack.
 
I know you, and I assert this to bolster this assertion: you are a strong-willed man with significant self-control.

That, however, does not preclude addiction. You've probably been a caffeine addict since your early years. My father is like you but doesn't have your degree of self-control to be able to forego all caffeine for days (must less months) at a time.

Numerous drugs have this addiction pattern.
More context for you that will help to bolster my claim that it is not related to addition but instead a physiological difference.

Was called ADD for the longest time. Tonnes of bouncing around, twelve balls in the air at once...poorly. doctor convinced me to take Adderall in my 30's. Suddenly I could manage to not pick up more balls to toss in the air. I could be happy with six or seven and do a good job as a juggler as opposed to a half assed juggler trying to do more than was potentially possible under the circumstances.

For caffeine, a much milder beta stimulant to have any effect on me, it needs to be about a liter and a half and that is impractical, not to mention that I just don't fond the idea appealing. You would stress your kidneys and be likely dealing with a significant case of the Kansas City quick step. I can manage to get a similar and better effect from a related alkaloid found in Yerba máte (hippy dippy crunchy diet sort of tea from primarily Argentina) than with Adderall. Better mood and none of the vaso-dilation which can be inconvenient for males if you don't time it properly. Ssmr if not better ability to slow down and not rev in neutral.
So, as I said more a physiological thing that puts me at one extreme end of the spectrum.

Wanna hear something interesting that has changed though? Since I went full carnivore, 90%+/- of the revving in neutral has simply gone away. I knew about a lot of positive effects that I could anticipate going into it but this was not one that I had seen reported.
Makes me lament for the hundredth time that I was unaware of the effects vastly earlier in life. Hey ho etc.
 
Because caffeine orders liver to release emergency reserves of sugar.

Nothing to wake you up like feeling we are under attack.
Thing is that I don't run out glycogen anymore. Fact statement. So, little to zero stored.. I run on ketones...well, yes yes your body can convert protein in excess to glycogen but I am not eating five ribeyes three times a day, so that wouldn't apply.

I am smiling as I type this...it makes me wonder at new converts to a religion who are driven to read every book and argument as well as watching all debates and lectures on their new religion...and more importantly the desire to Proselytize...not just a little but to put up a tent in a field and preach about demon carbs and the evils of the standard American diet.
I am afraid that if I am not careful, that I may begin to take myself too seriously on the topic.

I made a meme the other day to keep me smiling on the topic

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Thing is that I don't run out glycogen anymore. Fact statement. So, little to zero stored.. I run on ketones...well, yes yes your body can convert protein in excess to glycogen but I am not eating five ribeyes three times a day, so that wouldn't apply.

I am smiling as I type this...it makes me wonder at new converts to a religion who are driven to read every book and argument as well as watching all debates and lectures on their new religion...and more importantly the desire to Proselytize...not just a little but to put up a tent in a field and preach about demon carbs and the evils of the standard American diet.
I am afraid that if I am not careful, that I may begin to take myself too seriously on the topic.

I made a meme the other day to keep me smiling on the topic

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Nobody runs on glycogen. It's storage form of glucose which is actually used for power.

You would die without glocuse. Too much in blood or too little, result is same. No sugar is essential, meaning body can produce itself.

And yes, I think some brain cells can only use glucose.
 
Nobody runs on glycogen. It's storage form of glucose which is actually used for power.

You would die without glocuse. Too much in blood or too little, result is same. No sugar is essential, meaning body can produce itself.

And yes, I think some brain cells can only use glucose.
Your information is out of date.
Yes you need a very small amount and it is derived from conversion of protein as needed.
I eat zero carbs. No fake sugars and if I have any dairy then it will be a small amount every couple of weeks. So a trivial amount.
This how we were designed to eat. All of the carbs we consume are poison and in large part why we are fat, inflamed, jacked up insulin resistant and bound for dementia when the ole diabetes three (Alzheimer's) kicks in.

If your notions were accurate, then I would have been dead long ago as opposed to prospering.
I will only subject you to a brief list of benefits I have seen as I am only a mild bore.
So...in five months +/-....55lbs down with zero effort, incidental intermittent fasting which helps with the autophagy, herniated disc is gone, 95% snoring gone, brain fog gone, pain from dozens of broken bones and soft tissue injuries gone, vastly better mood and sleep, way more energy, reflux issues gone, indigestion gone. The fun bit is that my wife is also seeing just as many positive results as are two of my friends who jumped on the bandwaggon.

I could go on for a while but even though it is positive testimony, it becomes tiresome to others I realize.

I can't recommend enough taking the time to watch the content of a Dr Ken Barry on youtube. He explains it at every level from layman to going in depth on studies and mechanisms as well as having several researchers on to go into some of the fun crunchy depth of why this works and why primarily fatty red meat is what we are designed to eat and how very much big agribusiness hucksterism has been fed to us for over 100 years.

I also recommend Dr Anthony Chaffee. Similar content from an American Dr practicing in Australia. He talks a bit more about the benefits to athletes as he is a former semi pro and college rugby player who can put a little different spin on it. https://youtube.com/@anthonychaffeemd?si=_cHsqHU7kjGPHD0h

I can quote you pretty much all the same info but as people tend to have a credentials bias, and these guys are great at explaining the concepts, it seemed better to cite them as sources.

Hopefully you will take the time to watch or listen to a few of their vids. It is interesting material even of it turns out not to be your cup of tea
 
Your information is out of date.
Yes you need a very small amount and it is derived from conversion of protein as needed.
I eat zero carbs. No fake sugars and if I have any dairy then it will be a small amount every couple of weeks. So a trivial amount.
This how we were designed to eat. All of the carbs we consume are poison and in large part why we are fat, inflamed, jacked up insulin resistant and bound for dementia when the ole diabetes three (Alzheimer's) kicks in.

If your notions were accurate, then I would have been dead long ago as opposed to prospering.
I will only subject you to a brief list of benefits I have seen as I am only a mild bore.
So...in five months +/-....55lbs down with zero effort, incidental intermittent fasting which helps with the autophagy, herniated disc is gone, 95% snoring gone, brain fog gone, pain from dozens of broken bones and soft tissue injuries gone, vastly better mood and sleep, way more energy, reflux issues gone, indigestion gone. The fun bit is that my wife is also seeing just as many positive results as are two of my friends who jumped on the bandwaggon.

I could go on for a while but even though it is positive testimony, it becomes tiresome to others I realize.

I can't recommend enough taking the time to watch the content of a Dr Ken Barry on youtube. He explains it at every level from layman to going in depth on studies and mechanisms as well as having several researchers on to go into some of the fun crunchy depth of why this works and why primarily fatty red meat is what we are designed to eat and how very much big agribusiness hucksterism has been fed to us for over 100 years.

I also recommend Dr Anthony Chaffee. Similar content from an American Dr practicing in Australia. He talks a bit more about the benefits to athletes as he is a former semi pro and college rugby player who can put a little different spin on it. https://youtube.com/@anthonychaffeemd?si=_cHsqHU7kjGPHD0h

I can quote you pretty much all the same info but as people tend to have a credentials bias, and these guys are great at explaining the concepts, it seemed better to cite them as sources.

Hopefully you will take the time to watch or listen to a few of their vids. It is interesting material even of it turns out not to be your cup of tea
My husband is just eating meat and also feeling better with aches and pains gone, and breathing better at night. He's only been at it maybe 6 weeks. I haven't switched for long enough to notice benefits yet.

I just feasted on fatty ground mutton seasoned with herbs. Outstanding!

But now I'm eating a Macoun apple off our tree. I guess I'm a carnivore in training. Lol
 
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My husband is just eating meat and also feeling better with aches and pains gone, and breathing better at night. He's only been at it maybe 6 weeks. I haven't switched for long enough to notice benefits yet.

I just feasted on fatty ground mutton seasoned with herbs. Outstanding!

But now I'm eating a Macoun apple off our tree. I guess I'm a carnivore in training. Lol
I am very happy to hear that y'all are setting foot on path

If you need any information or meal ideas...not like it is complex, anything but, but lots of people can get stuck in unnecessary ruts easily.
We are considering setting up our own youtube channel based on the carnivore diet, carnivore cooking and my own food preservation nerd hobby. At least until we get out on a homestead and then there are a million things to cover...and super easy to tie back to the natural human diet
 
Dr Ken is a friend of mine. For the interested, you can watch a multi part series he did with me on his OB Farms channel. He’s solid on dietary advice.
 
Dr Ken is a friend of mine. For the interested, you can watch a multi part series he did with me on his OB Farms channel. He’s solid on dietary advice.
I will watch that. He seems like a nice guy with his head screwed on tight
 
Your information is out of date.
Yes you need a very small amount and it is derived from conversion of protein as needed.
I eat zero carbs. No fake sugars and if I have any dairy then it will be a small amount every couple of weeks. So a trivial amount.
This how we were designed to eat. All of the carbs we consume are poison and in large part why we are fat, inflamed, jacked up insulin resistant and bound for dementia when the ole diabetes three (Alzheimer's) kicks in.

If your notions were accurate, then I would have been dead long ago as opposed to prospering.
I will only subject you to a brief list of benefits I have seen as I am only a mild bore.
So...in five months +/-....55lbs down with zero effort, incidental intermittent fasting which helps with the autophagy, herniated disc is gone, 95% snoring gone, brain fog gone, pain from dozens of broken bones and soft tissue injuries gone, vastly better mood and sleep, way more energy, reflux issues gone, indigestion gone. The fun bit is that my wife is also seeing just as many positive results as are two of my friends who jumped on the bandwaggon.

I could go on for a while but even though it is positive testimony, it becomes tiresome to others I realize.

I can't recommend enough taking the time to watch the content of a Dr Ken Barry on youtube. He explains it at every level from layman to going in depth on studies and mechanisms as well as having several researchers on to go into some of the fun crunchy depth of why this works and why primarily fatty red meat is what we are designed to eat and how very much big agribusiness hucksterism has been fed to us for over 100 years.

I also recommend Dr Anthony Chaffee. Similar content from an American Dr practicing in Australia. He talks a bit more about the benefits to athletes as he is a former semi pro and college rugby player who can put a little different spin on it. https://youtube.com/@anthonychaffeemd?si=_cHsqHU7kjGPHD0h

I can quote you pretty much all the same info but as people tend to have a credentials bias, and these guys are great at explaining the concepts, it seemed better to cite them as sources.

Hopefully you will take the time to watch or listen to a few of their vids. It is interesting material even of it turns out not to be your cup of tea
I wrote nothing wrong. I never said we can only run on sugar.

I know of keto diet and sometimes I use it myself.
 
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I wrote nothing wrong. I never said we can only run on sugar.

I know of keyo diet and sometimes I use it myself.
No but you are attempting to pick nits in re stored sugar vs sugar you are running on and by extension attempting to sidestep my point.

Your original idea about why the coffee ritual might have a hold was related to stored sugar. I simply refuted that with a fact statement about about what I use for fuel. Be it stored or currently burning in the furnace.

And it while I can see that some would confuse what I advocate as keto, it is not. Carnivore is more than that in that it is an elimination diet that while yeah it gets the fat off one's backside, the larger benefit to my mind is finding which foods were specifically harming you. Since we effectively did not have the majority of the modern human diseases a couple hundred years ago and people will vary in how much they are effected pro or con by various foods...and no matter who gets their doily creased about it, different ecologies produce different results whether you like it or it makes people engage in nonsense denial (that is not directed at anyone in particular, just seen some ludicrous claims and notions) , so you want to figure out where you fall on a tolerance scale. From blood sugar levels to inflammation markers to things as simple as snoring. So carnivore.
For example, if it turned out that I could tolerate onions, peppers and potatoes I would be in hog heaven. Unfortunately I learned that any of them but especially the two nightshades just have a devastating effect on me. Horrible inflammation with extreme stiffness and pain for over a week after three experimental meals in short order. I spent the last several years thinking that most of my pain etc was related to numerous previous injuries. Fortunately I was wrong and it could be addressed and addressed casually. Lots of folks find solutions to problems like diabetes 2 or thyroid issues or or or or. You get the point. That first channel I recommend, if you were to scroll through the list of videos, you will find video on so very many different diseases and conditions that can be addressed via carnivore as well as an explanation of why our diets are such a large factor in development and treatment. It is worth your time, especially as you have familiarity with the ketogenic diet already.
 
No but you are attempting to pick nits in re stored sugar vs sugar you are running on and by extension attempting to sidestep my point.

Your original idea about why the coffee ritual might have a hold was related to stored sugar. I simply refuted that with a fact statement about about what I use for fuel. Be it stored or currently burning in the furnace.
This has gotten way out of hand.

I only said that your only mistake was claiming body using glycogen for energy. It's used for storage. Glucose is used for energy.

There is also fact about teaspoon of sugar must be in blood at all times. Too much and too little are both diseases:


I said nothing how this sugar level is maintained. I also said that sugars aren't essentials which means body can produce them. So even if you don't eat sugar, body is still able to maintain blood sugar level.

Also I don't know what you consider keto diet. For me, that is any diet whose goal is to make body use ketones for fuel. Ketones are form of fat. And since body burns calories in this exact order: alcohol, sugar, fat, protein only thing needed to achieve keto diet is to remove alcohol and sugar.

Since you claim you don't eat sugar and it's reasonable to assume you aren't alcholic you are eating keto diet by my definition. You aren't burning protein since this requires starvation to achieve. You are eating fats since some fat acids are essential. Just like vitamins. If you don't eat them, there will be problems. And meat is source of fat.
 
If intelligent scientists have used their intelligence to make or alter some life form, all that proves is that it takes intelligence to make or alter a life form.
You are on good track here. Cells are themselves that intelligence.
It doesn't prove life in all its various forms can create itself. Complex structures (living creatures) with information require a highly Intelligent Being to create that structure and information system. Shalom
Only problem is from whence comes first cell. Explained later.
Straw man argument. Please quote the Bible verse that says new species cannot originate after Creation. If you can find one we can discuss it further. Otherwise, this is a straw man that came from your own head.
If new species can't originate by evolution then it's must be created ex-nixilo by act of miracle. I didn't say that acts of creation new species must only happen during Creation.

You are assuming that if species can adapt, that somehow proves that they were not created special beings. You have to also explain the fact that in the plant and animal kingdoms, there are different numbers of chromosomes, for creatures that appear to be similar.
I don't claim exactly how any species come into existence, only that evolution as process must be purposefull process initiated and controlled by living being, rather than purely random process (as Darwin says).

Now, for real meat of story and ultimate question of biology.

Chemistry can be reduced to physics since all chemical reactions rely on physical laws. Horewer, biology can't be reduced to chemistry. Why?

Because in biology there are laws which can't explained by chemistry. Which laws? Information laws. Remember, information isn't material, it only has material representation in this world. Picture of Mona Liza is same picture, no matter does you see it on laptop or original. Same info, different material representations.

This is problem for both Darwin and it's Christian answer, Intelligent design. Both were created before anybody tried to use information laws in biology. So while I know why Darwin is wrong, I'm not so certain where exactly Intelligent Design is. But after missing most important part of biology, they can hardly be right.

Complexity isn't reason why Lord must be one who created cells. Cells themselves could evolve from simpler forms toward more complex forms with simpler forms getting outcompeted and going extinct.

Nope, real problem is that DNA/RNA are codes. Therefore information. Code is collection of rules for information understanding. Language is code, same for music notes, traffic signs, etc...

If you can communicate, rules of communication are code.

And so far, no naturally occuring event/happenings (something not done by living being) has information. Weather, rivers, sea. So far, all observed codes are used by living being. Beware, this observation is logical induction, by itself can't claimed as truth.

We can only be certain that we so far haven't found naturally occuring code.

Problem isn't how first proteins, sugars or fats were created. That's only chemistry. It's information which is needed to provide organization and purpose to chemical substances.

So ultimate question in biology is: From whence comes first code? And with it, information.

And to provide context, my whole post is scientific. Meaning, I didn't care what Bible says, what are theologic implication, what us popular. Only what we can observe in nature and use reason to understand it.

And yes, I understand almost everybody will conclude first code must come from Lord, horewer no such experiment can be performed.
 

Rites of the Tear-Downers​

by Margaret Ann Alice​

Rites of the Tear-Downers: Buildings Collapsing Smoke and Mist

I understand why the narrative-believers
dismiss, discount, and despise
the truth-speakers: menticide.

I understand why the injected
duck, dodge, and deny
the evidence-collectors: fear.

I understand why the trolls
mosquito-bite, spitball, and hair-pull
the freedom-defenders: hate.

I understand why the propagandists
slur, scorch, and snipe
the corruption-exposers: bribery.

I understand why the politicians
kafkatrap, quarantine, and terrorize
the tyranny-resisters: blackmail.

I understand why the agencies
bully, degrade, and shame
the policy victims: corruption.

I understand why the governments
surveil, silence, and strong-arm
the critical thinkers: power.

I understand why the corporations
fact-choke, blitz, and bot-attack
the dangerously credible: profit.

I understand why the philanthropaths
string-pullers, puppets, tyrants, and figureheads
concentrate the noncompliant: depopulation.

I don’t understand why those who claim to value truth, freedom, and love
purity-test, subvert, and side-stab those fighting totalitarianism with them.
I don’t understand why they castigate, insinuate, and berate
those accomplishing substantive strides toward our mutual goals.
I don’t understand why they squander life pummeling down instead of lifting up,
dividing instead of uniting, demoralizing instead of inspiring.

I’m not talking about those sharing verifiable proof of bad actors
or calling out a supposed ally for demonstrable harm.

I’m talking about the ones who presume
the power to see into others’ hearts;
the ones who proclaim the words, actions, and life’s work
of others mere masks for maleficent motives;
the ones who purport the ability to identify
the fakes, the frauds, and the phonies;
the ones drenched in paranoia, bitterness, and envy.

You know the ones.

Don’t they have any beauty to scatter,
like nasturtium seeds in a fallow meadow?
Don’t they have any wisdom to spread,
like worm castings over hungry soil?
Don’t they have any truth to drizzle,
like summer rain caressing the earth?
Don’t they have any hope to shine,
like sunlight coaxing seedlings skyward?

If they were infused with the joy of creation,
the pride of work well-done,
the satisfaction of collaboration with kindreds,
there would be no room left
for suspicion,
for spite,
for sabotage.

Their spirits would be brimming with gratitude,
their minds spinning with ideas,
their feet pattering to the next project.

They would awaken to each day
with the zeal of an otter eager to swim,
a runner lacing up her shoes,
a visionary sketching an invention.

They would be too busy
forging their own path
toward their singular mission
to notice the foibles of
others.

They would be too wonderstruck
to wallow,
to whine,
to whisper.

So what if we don’t agree on everything?
We’re explorers, not followers.

So what if we don’t think the same?
We’re water, not stone.

So what if we don’t trod the same trail?
We’re mapping, not paving.

The tear-downers fill
their moody minds
with phantasms,
their vacant souls
with gossip,
their hollow hearts
with carrion.

They are bulimics
who can never
feel sated;
addicts who
can only find
stimulation outside
themselves;
agnosiacs who
babble gibberish
because meaning
escapes them.

They whip their chainsaws
through limbs
like a toddler
stomping on snails.

They deem themselves gods,
all-seeing,
all-knowing,
end-alling.

They are the righteous heroes
of their narcissistic fantasies,
stepping-stone their way up
on the carcasses of their slain.

They sell scalps
for sway,
stories
for spotlights,
skins
for silver.

Soon,
there will be no
one left to
spear,
no one left
to solicit,
no one
left to swindle,
no
one
left.

And that is how
the tear-downers
clearcut a forest,
that is how they
smother a fire,
that is how they
find themselves

alone

in a wasteland
of their own
tearing.
 
And to provide context, my whole post is scientific. Meaning, I didn't care what Bible says, what are theologic implication, what us popular. Only what we can observe in nature and use reason to understand it.
Well then my friend, this is where we part company. I care very much regarding what is in the Bible because it is the Word of God revealing to us the truth concerning the origin and termination of all things. Only through the Bible can we know the mind of God, His purpose, and His plan for His creation. If you view nature through a damaged lense you will never see the picture clearly and will therefore come to a faulty conclusion.
 
If new species can't originate by evolution then it's must be created ex-nixilo by act of miracle.
That is an extreme dichotomy.
How do you define "species"?
How do you define "ex-nihilo"?
How do you define "evolution"?

I'm checking what you mean when you use those words, as we do talk at cross purposes sometimes due to differences in how we use English, and I want to be sure I know what you mean before discussing it. Your extremely dichotomous statement is surprising and seems illogical, so although I could debate it, I'm not sure you actually mean what you said so I'd like to clarify that first.
 
But they don't because that would require the addition of information and that requires intelligent input.
No a problem since cells are already inteligent. Cells are already capable of inventing new code.

In fact, when number of cancer cells is reduced to 1%/2%, remaining cancer cells will start evolving to avoid being killed by chemotheraphy. Same with bacteria under influence of antibiotics.

Normal human cells have same capability, they don't just use it. T-cells are exception. They randomly change their own DNA (code) to be able to recognize unknown pathogens.

Inventing new code for cells is conceptually sane as us inventing new words for language. There is new need and we change or add to something existing on purpose to satisfy over need.

Well then my friend, this is where we part company. I care very much regarding what is in the Bible because it is the Word of God revealing to us the truth concerning the origin and termination of all things. Only through the Bible can we know the mind of God, His purpose, and His plan for His creation. If you view nature through a damaged lense you will never see the picture clearly and will therefore come to a faulty conclusion.
Systematic process of observing nature and using logic to find truth is called science. Is science absolutely worthless to you and good for nothing?

Key reason for losing credibility and respect of Christianity by rest of world was done by Intelligent design crowd idiocy. They claimed they found truth and had better science.

Well, when scientists checked their work it was found wanting. Scientific theory must be based on scientific method or its not a science. And key reason for debacle is some people unable to stop themselves from injecting theology into their work.

And science was born in monasteries since one way to understand any creator (Lord, musicians, painters) is by understanding their works since works must be expressions of creator. So, by understanding nature we can understand something of Lord.

And presence of natural laws implies presence of fixed rules and hidden order in nature which implies Creator who likes unchangeable rules which implies His values system doesn't change which implies He doesn't change.

That is an extreme dichotomy.
How do you define "species"?
Group of living beings able to reproduce among themselves. Standard biology definition.
How do you define "ex-nihilo"?
Literally out of nothing. If specie can't be created from another species, from when new specie arrives? Rocks, minerals can't create new specie, so it must be miracle.
How do you define "evolution"?
Permanent change in characteristics of some group of living beings, no matter the scale (how large change of characteristtic, how many characteristics or how many members are changed).
 
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