Meat Limits of Christian rules

[Mojo]

That's what we're talking about here, total submission to government.

Are we? I don’t think I am. Maybe others are.
I’ve not even said I disagree with the revolution. I’m just helping people to think about another position and that good Christians can disagree on a subject thoughtfully.

 

[steve]

I can't reply to this better than this:



Perhaps men were not equal to Jesus, but quite clearly Jesus made the effort to be equal to men.

He was a man, a human being as we are, but he managed to walk this earth without sin.
Any equality ended there.

 

[frederick]

Just to clarify, unlike all other human beings, in the hypostatic union Jesus Christ is both God and man. Jesus is one person with two natures, divine and human, without confusion, change, division, or separation. No human being is His equal, nor ever will be. Cheers

 

[frederick]

Just to clarify, unlike all other human beings, in the hypostatic union Jesus Christ is both God and man. Jesus is one person with two natures, divine and human, without confusion, change, division, or separation. No human being is His equal, nor ever will be. Cheers

 

[MeganC]

Just to clarify, unlike all other human beings, in the hypostatic union Jesus Christ is both God and man. Jesus is one person with two natures, divine and human, without confusion, change, division, or separation. No human being is His equal, nor ever will be. Cheers

Yet in saying this are you denying the humanity of Jesus?

Why would God bother with sending Jesus to be a man if Jesus were to be a deity? God could have done that Himself.

 

[frederick]

Yet in saying this are you denying the humanity of Jesus?

Why would God bother with sending Jesus to be a man if Jesus were to be a deity? God could have done that Himself.

Because He had to be human to die for the sins of humanity.

 

[MeganC]

Because He had to be human to die for the sins of humanity.

Right.

 

[MemeFan]

Yes, the heavy taxation was coming from the Romans and they weren’t his target audience.
He was preaching to the Jews and told them that if a soldier were to compel them to carry his gear for a mile, that they should carry it for two miles instead. How is that not a form of taxation?

If I remember correctly Roman army had discipline of steel and Roman law allowed soldier to compel non-soldiery to carry equipment one mile.

So Jesus actually advised making Roman soldiers to break Roman law. Exactly best situation to finish in soldier being punished. So if Jew get in habit of carrying two miles, Roman commander will get in habit of punishing their soldiers. And imagine PR impact of Roman army their law on subjugated people.

End result would be soldiers being scarred of compeling other to carry equipment.

Reminds me of Alinsky:

“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

Jesus did sometime provide good political advice, in this case make occupiers cry.

 

[MemeFan]

Unless you are in the heavenly right now it is not talking about you or humans.

But we will judge angels.

To much is given, much is required. I don't get to judge Gods trust level of me. I can just do my best to steward what God places in my life. That does grow over time and as relationship with Him and obedience to Him grows.

OKi doki.

Can you still have free will and can decide current status is unsatisfactory. Man doesn't become monk because he is happy with his current status.

God created man perfect in human format creation. Sin caused that perfect image to become fallen. Heavenly bodies are promised to bring us back to creation ideal in a non physical form.

None of this Implies lack of perfection in Gods design. So no input of yours is wanted or needed to Improve anything.

No. A critique from someone who isn't on equal or better skill level is never a compliment or taken as something other insulting.

Like any artists will be blind to input of his children. Won't happen.

The Bible does not support the idea that men are equal to Christ; rather, it distinguishes between equality of status and equality of nature.

• Equality in Redemption: The Bible teaches that believers are equal before God as fellow heirs and children, but this is a relationship of adoption, not ontological equivalence. Galatians 3:28 states, "There is neither... male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus," emphasizing unity and shared access to salvation rather than identical status.
• Distinction from Christ: Theological consensus and scripture affirm that while believers are co-heirs (Romans 8:17), they remain distinct from Christ, who is the Lord and Savior. The concept of being "brothers" refers to familial relationship and shared spiritual life, not equality with the divine.
• Hierarchical Unity: Some interpretations note that equality in Christ does not erase all distinctions; just as Christ submits to God while being equal to Him, believers are equal in worth but may have different roles or submit to Christ’s authority.

In summary, the Bible supports spiritual equality and brotherhood among believers and with Christ in terms of inheritance and value, but explicitly rejects ontological equality with Christ Himself.

You have gone way too much.

Are siblings same or equal? No, siblinghood is defined by relationship with father/mother, no with any characteristic of siblings themselves.

What you described in the above example is not nagging. It is asking What is needed to do to serve better.

The examples you have been giving involve needing to understand Why and for what reason the request is being made. It is nagging because understanding what needs to be done is needed. To need to know why and what purpose it serves is not.

Why and what purpose does help with task.