Does the role of wife remove the obligation we have as christians to watch out for each others souls through loving correction?
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Meat Complementarianism vs. Biblical Patriarchy
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That’s great, for a monogamous household.Berean patriot has an excellent article on the role of women in the household. In that article, he linked to a clip from Star Trek as an illustration of how a wife (executive officer) can offer advice while remaining under the authority of her husband (Captain).
How Crucial are Women to a Biblical Household? Very! - Berean Patriot
This article is sort of a follow-up/spin-off to my article What’s the Best Bible Translation? And More Importantly, Why? In that article, I make the case that the Bible primarily uses masculine language addressed to men. A few days ago, a woman left a comment on that article, and her comment...www.bereanpatriot.com
How do you translate that to a polygynous family?
If a wife is lovingly correcting her husband, you’ve got some problems.
I don't think it changes much other than designating what part of the household is managed by which wife.
That works, too many polygynous households have the first wife as second in command and additional wives as her underlings.
The wife is not allowed to tell her husband where she believes he is screwing up? He doesn’t have to listen to her, but why can’t she tell him where she believes he is in error. Maybe he hadn’t thought of that and needed the information.
It sets the wife up in judgement of the husband.
Not referring to judging husband. I’m referring to things and perspectives he legitimately did not think of or did not know about. I need my wife’s input and perspective so I can make better decisions. I may have not considered that and I might be wrong. I am not perfect and frequently am wrong.
Which absolutely leads to the wife sitting in judgement of the husband. The church doesn’t help Christ improve Himself. It’s just too much of a blurring of the roles. It’s opening a door that should remain firmly shut. That’s the same reason wives should never be a husband’s accountability partner either.
One big difference. Christ is perfect. I am not.
You make it sound as if your wife plays somewhat of a parental role.
It’s good to discuss some things, but you sound as if you are dependent upon her opinion.
I am not dependent on anything. I value her input. We have been married for 31 years. I like to hear what she has to say.
I run my house like I run my house. I am in charge and she knows that, but I usually ask her opinion on any major decision. I don't see anything wrong with that. She is not in charge of me and completely knows that. But she is free to tell me anything she wants to. That's the way I run it.
I see these two statements as being quite different from each other. It’s like you aren’t describing the same relationship.
Need may have been an overstatement. Like may have been a better choice of wording.
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Lets say a christian husband gives in to temptation and cheats on his taxes. So he has lied and is not submitting to the civil authority. Can his wife confront him about it? Is there a respectful way to do so? For the sake of the argument we will say they are filing separately to avoid her having liability.
There’s no biblical way for her to “confront”him.
Job confronted and questioned God in the book of Job concerning his troubles. God is big enough to handle it and bantered back with Job in Job 38. I am big enough to handle my wife coming to me with her questions and concerns. I can make the correct judgements for my family.
Job 7 (Job to God)
17 “What is man, that You should exalt him,
That You should set Your heart on him,
18 That You should [d]visit him every morning,
And test him every moment?
19 How long?
Will You not look away from me,
And let me alone till I swallow my saliva?
20 Have I sinned?
What have I done to You, O watcher of men?
Why have You set me as Your target,
So that I am a burden [e]to myself?
21 Why then do You not pardon my transgression,
And take away my iniquity?
For now I will lie down in the dust,
And You will seek me diligently,
But I will no longer be.”
God answers Job - Job 38
38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
2 “Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
3 Now [a]prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the [b]line upon it?
6 To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Thank you for your responses. I have been pondering this for a while.
Wives submit to your husbands in all things, Job isn’t commenting on marriage. All things means all things. There’s no getting around that one.
If God has blessed a man where his wives are highly skilled or specialists in their fields, it's sensible to get input from them. It would only be a fool who would think he knows more than them about everything. The man who has been blessed with a virtuous wife (wives) values her far above rubies, and the heart of her husband safely trusts her; so he will have no lack of gain (Proverbs 31:10 & 11). Lemuel's mother taught him (Proverbs 31:1) and we are blessed with having some of that instruction recorded for us in Holy Scripture. All thanks and praise to God for His provision of virtuous wives.