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FollowingHim2 said:
So she has proof that you're 'abusive' and shouldn't have access to your children. If you haven't contacted a lawyer yet then do it now and tell them the whole truth, including this. I suspect you have quite the fight on your hands. I wonder if she wanted to leave but waited until you did something like this so that she could have the proof needed to make sure she didn't have to see you again and could make a clean break and keep the children with her.
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No, there is no proof, quite the opposite actually, nor did it have nothing to do with her. I am honest, I think that's part of the problem in my experience. Fyi, I have the freedom of speech, telling another person they need a spanking is not an act of violence, as does she or anyone else have freedom of speech, she saying she's going to kill me in my sleep and cut off my .... is pretty upsetting but its not an action nor justified to respond aggressively towards when she's clearly saying things in anger. Sexual spankings is also not illegal wrong, especially when there is written requests for such as well as witnesses of it being requested and wanted. I suggest not reacting to a comment without knowing all the information.

I have 3 attorney's, they aren't concerned about my comment to another woman, nor do they agree it gives her just cause. She is welcome to leave, but not steal my children.
 
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rockfox said:
What did you expect her to say? "I'm planning to take them away from you just as soon as your next paycheck clears so I have enough for plane tickets?"

If that comes across as harsh to you I don't mean it to be, but I'm trying to illustrate for others the folly of that mindset. This is a common pitfall for Christian men, they want to think well of their wives, that they're good Christians who wouldn't do anything bad. They buy into the churches mindset that women are more spiritual; innocent angels. And it set's them up for failure.

But Christian women kick fathers out of their children's lives all the time; all of them previously claiming to be faithful and true to her man. Any and every woman is capable of it because they all have a carnal nature and a state/church apparatus that helps and rewards them for doing it.
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Yes, your correct in what your saying, however I'm not a fool so of course I was doubtful of what she said, but the fact she, 6 months earlier, emailed me this link - https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
And discussed often, how much she hated how women removed children from their fathers, I did believe she was diffrent than my past experiences with most women. I was clearly naive to trust her at all.
 
Sean Miller said:
No, there is no proof, nor did it have nothing to do with her. I am honest, I think that's part of the problem in my experience. Fyi, I have the freedom of speech, telling another person they need a spankingis's boy an act of violence, as does she or anyone else have freedom of speech she saying she's going to kill me in my sleep and cut off my .... is pretty upsetting but its not an action nor justified to respond aggressively towards when she's clearly saying things in anger.

I have 3 attorney's, they aren't concerned about my comment, nor do they agree it gives her just cause. She is's welcome to leave, but not steal my children.
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I did not mean that you are abusive. I meant that she may have seen that message as something she could use to 'prove' that you are abusive, even though you are not. She may have waited until she had something like this that she thought she could use, and then left once she had it.

If your lawyers know about it and do not think it is a concern, that is very reassuring. It may still help to explain why she left when she did though.
 
FollowingHim2 said:
I did not mean that you are abusive. I meant that she may have seen that message as something she could use to 'prove' that you are abusive, even though you are not. She may have waited until she had something like this that she thought she could use, and then left once she had it.

If your lawyers know about it and do not think it is a concern, that is very reassuring. It may still help to explain why she left when she did though.
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I follow you now. You responded while I was editing that post, I made a few corrections. I may have misunderstood how you responded but only could go off what you wrote.

Im sure and I thought that the day she left, she was looking and waiting for any decent excuse to go, she didn't want to stay anymore but needed something to try and justify her actions. However she could have used poly for that months earlier, so idk.
 
No offense everyone, but ultimately this discussion got "off topic" a bit. I'm happy to discuss statistics and the bases behind divorce rates and what we've all experienced in this regard, however it really doesn't have much to do with handling the wrongful abduction of my children, and maybe we should discuss it on another thread.

In regards to my wife leaving, well I've been though it before, I'm sad and hurt about her choice, it's wrong and unjust biblically, but I accept its her choice. However, I don't accept her taking my children against my will, in order to get self gain or because she's "afraid" another woman will treat them like she treated her step children, with violence and anger.

I work at trusting God in the situation. Lawyers can be used by God but they aren't the answer to the problem, He is. I struggle at times resting on Him only and feel often I want and need a solution or answer from people, support is great. Ultimately, I need to trust God, that's hard in moments like this, sometimes I think it depends all on what I do or don't do... (discouraged)

I really miss and love my boys, I really hate this. 7 weeks now and nothing from my boys, not a call or anything.
 
Thanks for the understanding and support everyone. I do appreciate it. Met with lawyers this week and it is so discouraging. Road block after road block. Now the channels to potentially get my son's back are getting smaller and much more expensive as I'll have to hire more lawyer's. It seems God is working against me not for me right now. I'm so discouraged. 2 months now, my heart aches and at moments my anger wants to rage at the injustice she's doing. Please keep praying for their return and comfort for myself as well as the children who are with me, who also miss their brothers.
 
Sean Miller said:
Thanks for the understanding and support everyone. I do appreciate it. Met with lawyers this week and it is so discouraging. Road block after road block. Now the channels to potentially get my son's back are getting smaller and much more expensive as I'll have to hire more lawyer's. It seems God is working against me not for me right now. I'm so discouraged. 2 months now, my heart aches and at moments my anger wants to rage at the injustice she's doing. Please keep praying for their return and comfort for myself as well as the children who are with me, who also miss their brothers.
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Praying.
 
Praying

I have another friend who has been experiencing a parallel situation for a much longer time period.
It appears to be turning the corner at this point.

Let Yah do His purposes in your heart and life.
This is more about the Kingdom and His plans than it is about your family.
 
Sean Miller said:
Thanks for the understanding and support everyone. I do appreciate it. Met with lawyers this week and it is so discouraging. Road block after road block. Now the channels to potentially get my son's back are getting smaller and much more expensive as I'll have to hire more lawyer's. It seems God is working against me not for me right now. I'm so discouraged. 2 months now, my heart aches and at moments my anger wants to rage at the injustice she's doing. Please keep praying for their return and comfort for myself as well as the children who are with me, who also miss their brothers.
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God is never working against you. We know who it is that works against us. We will continue praying.
 
Daniel DeLuca said:
Well, the article cites Infidelity and Misconduct, as two of the top ten reasons, and Emotional abuse is described as falling under the umbrella of misconduct. All these Christian ministries have to do, is point to Patriarchy, and claim that that is Emotional abuse, and viola, marriage destroyed. Of course the world's definition of infidelity, doesn't quite match of to the Biblical definition. When I see a woman post online that she divorced her husband because he was unfaithful, I correct her, and point out that if he did not initiate the divorce, from a Biblical perspective, he was not unfaithful!
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Exactly!
 
rustywest4 said:
Judge say “do you believe this marriage is irreversibly broken?”
Hubby say “I surely do not”
Wifey say “I hate him”
Judge say “well alright then, it’s decided, y’all are divorced, and she gets everything including the children, and hubby must still fully financially support her and the children”

#femaleprivilege
#sexism
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Pretty much
 
Sean Miller said:
Yes, your exactly correct. In court statistics 70% of wives are the initiator in divorce cases. Who knows what the percentage of the remaining 30% resulted in things like my situation where the husband had no other options but to file or hire much was due to the wife committing adultry.

I try to get my ²nd to understand, the way women think it's not same as men. A woman is designed monogamous so she, today, thinks men should be like her, not polygamous. It's just not so, just because some men are able to do it doesn't mean they don't have desires or temptations for other women, they just don't act on it as they can't afford it, don't want the stress or just think it's wrong like I did at one point.
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Right on brother!
 
Sean Miller said:
Just a update.... Still little progress. Court process is in motion for divorce/custody locally. But Corona now has resulted in most courts being closed completely. Just another delay :(
Thanks to you still praying
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Love you brother, and I hate the situation that you're going through, but I know our God has a way already panned out for you!
 
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