The Light of Lucifer on Divorce

[Maddog]

Says the man without daughters. You have to pay the bride price, of course you want it to be low. I have daughters. If I’m going to be giving them up for money then the price damn well better reflect their value to me.

Given a mother that trains her daughter, the daughter has intrinsic value to the household she comes from. It is like giving your best milker to a young man with no money, no career, doesnt know the first thing about being a farmer. Thats foolish on the part of dear old dad.

 

[OttoM]

Or you could admit how absurd this all sounds and examine whether or not the price of the virgin only applies when a virgin has been seduced and her father utterly refuses to give her up. That is the only scenario where we’re told about a bride price….

It's absurd sending daughters to college with no covering - where they will most likely rack up a body count - get into debt for a degree that most likely is worthless - and waste their youth away. Yet, this is the norm in modern Christianity.

How about instead of sending daughters to college without a covering - teach them to be good wives and mothers - and find a suitable husband for them that can provide and produce godly offspring - and just maybe that husband can fulfill some righteousness by showing some gratitude to her parents for raising her right - versus allowing her to do whatever she likes - dress however she likes - sleep with whomever she wants - thus producing a generation of rebellious wives and bad mothers.

 

[MemeFan]

In the previous covenant era betrothal was monetized in TIME- 7 years labor as well as cattle and silver. It had(has) value.

Yea, Jacob is great example.

Only reason he was willing to pay that much is because he was smitten.

Otherwise, you will finish dealing with "profesional buyers". Nothing stops man from running several buying process at same time. Maybe even starting reverse auction.

 

[MemeFan]

Says the man without daughters. You have to pay the bride price, of course you want it to be low. I have daughters. If I’m going to be giving them up for money then the price damn well better reflect their value to me.

Except his willingness to pay depends on daughter's value to him, not you.

Btw, daughter is depreciating asset since older she is she can give less children plus they start going crazy.

 

[The Revolting Man]

It's absurd sending daughters to college with no covering - where they will most likely rack up a body count - get into debt for a degree that most likely is worthless - and waste their youth away. Yet, this is the norm in modern Christianity.

How about instead of sending daughters to college without a covering - teach them to be good wives and mothers - and find a suitable husband for them that can provide and produce godly offspring - and just maybe that husband can fulfill some righteousness by showing some gratitude to her parents for raising her right - versus allowing her to do whatever she likes - dress however she likes - sleep with whomever she wants - thus producing a generation of rebellious wives and bad mothers.

That’s the only two options? Send them to college (whee they would still have a covering, me) or sell them to you cheap? I don’t have any other options?

 

[Mark C]

Monetize the transaction in worth. Mark C you have assets of one sort or another, what is fair market value?
I understand it sounds a bit crass but please dont be offended by looking at this through First Covenent eyes, vis-a-vis bride price.

Or whatever the case may be - it’s your money.

Trouble is, "$$$" are not real money, which is silver. And Steve is right, too, I wouldn't want to demean even a 'pig in a poke' by reducing her to a few inflatable pieces of paper. I wouldn't try to name a 'value' in fiat dishonest weights.

So - is she worth more than a bag of silver? Or maybe rubies?

Yes, she has value, and Scripture is correct - it's HUGE. A true "Proverbs 31" woman, with which I have been blessed with more than one, is beyond price. I literally could not afford to buy what I have been given. (Think about it: That's not the only case!)


And - related, but very different subject: How about the father? He has an investment, and is entitled to real value for something of great value to him. BUT -- a good father obviously wants the best for the "apple of his eye." And every one I know was more than anxious to make sure she had a truly good husband, more than whatever price might be had. (Call it a 'discount' for a good home; I'm more than happy to do that when it comes to selling one of my doe goats.)

And, besides - my first father-in-law had my first wife for just a bit over two decades - I've had her now for [over] twice that. There's no way it's an exchange of mere 'value-for-value.'

 

[MemeFan]

That’s the only two options? Send them to college (whee they would still have a covering, me) or sell them to you cheap? I don’t have any other options?

Well, you can sell them or keep them.

Maybe you can find better buyer.

 

[OttoM]

That’s the only two options? Send them to college (whee they would still have a covering, me) or sell them to you cheap? I don’t have any other options?

So you’re going to be living with your daughter in college? Or it’s a local college and she’s coming back home every night? If not - she’s living on her own with no covering - making her own decisions.

A father is not selling his daughter. He’s giving her away to another man - who ideally will be her covering long after her father passes away. What’s wrong with the husband fulfilling righteousness and showing gratitude to the girl’s family for raising her right and keeping her pure? It doesn’t even have to be called a bride price. He may invite them on a vacation - and pay for their expenses. Etc etc etc.