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about the dynamic of family ministry.
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about the dynamic of family ministry.
When you put a bunch of puzzle pieces together and it creates a complete picture, you know that you are on the right track.
When another person takes those same pieces and tries to create a picture according to their own agenda and past teachings, the anomalies become obvious.
This is a situation where you can read it and think "Ah, maybe that is the case, that would make a whole lot of sense, very interesting", knowing that you'll never actually know if it's true. Like the theory that there may have been something actually embarrassingly wrong with Isaac which caused his father to explicitly require the servant not to take him to find a wife (to really make assumptions - maybe something like Downs, given how old his mother was and that the risk increases with age). That fits together the puzzle pieces and explains a lot too - but we'll never know until eternity as there is just not enough written about him to either verify or disprove it.
This sort of speculation can be edifying as it adds context to the story - it's basically what every preacher does when they describe a scriptural story using ten times as many words as the Bible actually says and flesh it out in order to put the audience in the actual situation and fully appreciate its relevance to them ("So Jesus was walking down a street and he saw a tax collector. Imagine what everyone else thought of the tax collector, and about Jesus talking to him... And the tax collector would have been thinking... But Jesus did the exact opposite to what he expected..."). A good preacher does not just make up stuff, but they say what they believe is the most likely true understanding of what was happening.
This sort of speculation can be edifying as it adds context to the story - it's basically what every preacher does when they describe a scriptural story using ten times as many words as the Bible actually says and flesh it out in order to put the audience in the actual situation and fully appreciate its relevance to them ("So Jesus was walking down a street and he saw a tax collector. Imagine what everyone else thought of the tax collector, and about Jesus talking to him... And the tax collector would have been thinking... But Jesus did the exact opposite to what he expected..."). A good preacher does not just make up stuff, but they say what they believe is the most likely true understanding of what was happening.
Your isaac had Down's syndrome theory makes sense of why he went along with Abraham to get sacrificed. People with Down's are normally pretty sweet and trusting. It also might help explain how Jacob was able to trick him and get the blessing meant for Esau.
Then again, Isaac had a very long life, and people with Down's usually don't live as long.
Exactly @Bartato. However, note I didn't claim Isaac had Downs, just that it is possible that there was something wrong with him, and said "something like Downs" as one possible example of what that could have been. There are a plethora of things that it could have been, Downs is statistically unlikely since it's only one of thousands of options, but as it's well-known it illustrates the point. Since everyone knows it, anyone can easily picture Isaac as a Downs person and see why it fits the puzzle pieces together - but the actual reality was probably different to what we can easily picture. I'm just being a preacher putting the audience in the room with him and helping them imagine the situation!
This might be too strong of a statement. We’re told explicitly that her husband is sitting in the gate while all of this is happening. I don’t think we can conclusively state that she wasn’t supplying a substantial portion of the family’s income.
Precisely @steve, and because most Jewish and Christian scholars believe polygyny is a sin this ministry exists. Shalom
Yeah, and sometimes it's meant to sound like "Peace"."Shalom" around here sometimes kinda sounds like "bless your heart".
If her husband was the king “sitting with the elders of the land”, there was no need of her earning income.
That’s a big if though.
The only “if” is whether or not King Solomon wrote it about his mother.
It is pretty much accepted that he did write it. Who would his pattern have been? For me, that narrows it down tremendously. Although I realize that it isn’t proof positive.
So this part isn’t literal?
1 ¶ The words of King Lemuel, the fnoracle which his mother taught him
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Very few can be found who believe that Lemuel is not Solomon
Are we now debating whether or not King Lemuel was a King? Whether he was Solomon or Hezekiah (or any other King of Israel) I'm sure we can assume the women in his household didn't need to work.
The point being, the passage doesn’t only apply to kings. It was written for all of us. It applies to stable boys and their wives as much as it does to kings and their wives.
If it exemplifies a home based business/ministry, then great.
If we take from it that our wives should support us while we hang out with the other portended elders, not so much.
We can’t put artificial barriers around what it says either though. It does not put income requirements or restrictions on either side of the equation.
I read that as "the effing oracle which his mother taught him"
