What’s wrong with being a toy for pleasure? As long as that’s not all a woman is then there’s nothing wrong with it being what she sometimes is.
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Woman do also sometimes use men for pleasure. Both sexes aren't innocent in this department.
Perhaps "innocent" would be an apt way to put it, since there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Usual social assumption is that using others for sexual pleasure is bad. It comes in many variants.
Ahem, Trojan war.
Women may speak bad about another woman or sabotage other woman for love, but they won't wage war. There is reason why unemployed unmarried young men are most dangerous group.
I often feel guilty escaping to my shop or taking a day riding my motorcycle. I know I’ve got my duties to preform for her and all but what about when I have a headache? Sometimes I just want to be held and not groped like a piece of meat or some toy. I mean really, I get it, so I’ve got some skills. That doesn’t mean that I’m not good for anything else! Ive got so much more to offer, but she doesn’t care about any of that. Its like once she realized what she had, that’s all she ever saw me as good for. I turned a switch on in her and created a monster. Sometimes I feel so cheap and used.I wonder if women in general have been misguided sexually both in the past and present. In the past it was taught and assumed that woman had no sexual drive; that they were given for the mans pleasure and procreation. Fast forward to the present and we find worldly women actively promiscuous imitating how they presume a man would behave. All that feminist BS.
Both of these scenarios seem like the extreme end of a flawed, sinful spectrum.
I must therefore go to the obvious observable fact. Woman are sexual creatures. Case in point (I am trying to be delicate here) if we were not sexual creatures why did God create us with so many, how shall I put this... receptors for pleasure. You can’t see but I’m blushing.It’s a very private topic but I felt led to point out that within a covenant relationship being the mode of your husbands pleasure and he yours should be the goal (procreation aside). I would respectfully disagree that men are wired to be more sexually driven than women. I would however, definitely agree that men are more visually stimulated than women. Women are more relationally and emotionally stimulated (in general). This looks different for each woman. So in saying that I would sum up that while the modes of our sexual desire are different our capacity for the desire of physical intimacy is in reality on par. That being said I do acknowledge that feminine hormones and age do play a role in diminished desire. However, in a covenant relationship where both parties aim to please there should be no shortage of desire. Please don’t misunderstand. My intent is in no way to say any woman that isn’t interested in physical intimacy is wrong. I fully understand being sick or exhausted. However, I would ask that you consider understanding what gives you pleasure when you are with your Husband, encourage him. It’s a win-win for both of you. I have probably said too much so I’ll leave it at that.
As always this is only my opinion based off my observations, what ever there worth.
…Nah, whom I kidding? I love it.
I think co-wife and I go by the principle there's nothing we won't try twice. Once to try it, and again just to make sure. Our husband has been very creative with that lol, but we still haven't found anything we weren't willing to do for him. So in that sense I guess I am a sex toy for my husband and proud of it <3
I like your philosophy.
When heights were NOT my thing I once jumped off a thirty+ foot high rock ledge into the water....twice.
Sometimes a first is over too fast to have an opinion.
...as is the social assumptions regarding polygyny.
Um, what if the woman likes being used for her husband's sexual pleasure? I find it a compliment.
I'm not talking about your particular case, but what is general belief is public.
Average man is taller than average woman, but some women are taller than man. Same logic.
Read bits and pieces of the thread but not all, so perhaps this has been expressed already.
Each marriage is different, including multiple marriages within a given family. None of us are cookie cutter people so it is hard to just map out perfect dynamics with a big brush.. So I would think that one of the most important things at the beginning of a getting to know you early to pre courting period is expectations.
I mean that in broad terms. Expectations and goals with respect to division of labor, children and how to raise them, where one stands on moral/cultural/political/faith issues, do they believe in divorce and yes nookie issues. Is your preference that it be infrequent, constant or does it involve a trapeze and a reinforced chandelier.
Early frank conversations can help to make sure you are genuinely a good match before anyone begins to develop feelings that could be hurt if it is not a match.
Last, I think if both parties are in this with their partners happiness as a firm goal and doesn't feel comfortable with being a dick to each other even in times of stress, then I imagine everyone is going to be happier and come closer to being fully satisfied in all aspects.
Each marriage is different, including multiple marriages within a given family. None of us are cookie cutter people so it is hard to just map out perfect dynamics with a big brush.. So I would think that one of the most important things at the beginning of a getting to know you early to pre courting period is expectations.
I mean that in broad terms. Expectations and goals with respect to division of labor, children and how to raise them, where one stands on moral/cultural/political/faith issues, do they believe in divorce and yes nookie issues. Is your preference that it be infrequent, constant or does it involve a trapeze and a reinforced chandelier.
Early frank conversations can help to make sure you are genuinely a good match before anyone begins to develop feelings that could be hurt if it is not a match.
Last, I think if both parties are in this with their partners happiness as a firm goal and doesn't feel comfortable with being a dick to each other even in times of stress, then I imagine everyone is going to be happier and come closer to being fully satisfied in all aspects.
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I like to joke that I'm 5'12". II used to say 5'10" just because saying you're six feet tall intimidates some people.
Right?! My husband's bedroom expectations were made very clear to me before I entered this marriage and I willingly submitted to them when I still married him. Sure my husband has had sex with me when I wasn't in the mood, but that's what I consesnted to when I entered the marriage. The same goes with what happens in the bedroom. Even if what my husband is suggesting makes me uncomfortable I always make sure to go through with it because he is my leader. I trust him to challenge me and shelter me at the same time. And from that I can honestly say I've never been regretful of any of the things I've done for him.
It is such a compliment to know that even as I get older I'm always desired by my husband and that he is looking to create new experiences with me.
Tall and lots of kids...sure there is no sister hiding in the wings?
This entire thread reminded me of an issue I find lurking in this forum. Biblical Families has a feminist undertone to it. It is 1 step from the Christian Church, which is afraid to speak about any hard biblical facts pertaining to women. Men come out in drones to defend women, even when they know the men who stand up to call it out are correct. In @rockfox original post, he spoke 100% truth. Too many men are running overseas to find wives for this very reason.
I would never tolerate my wife letting herself go, putting the children above me, or not taking care of her duties with me sexually. If any area were to be lacking, it would be called out immediately. There are no excuses for that outside of physical health complications.
Men constantly defend women's behaviors, and this is why many men have these issues with their wives. Even men who defend their wives (or other men's bad wives), it's because they've been conditioned by feminism and feel it's their duty as men to defend women's inexcusable behaviors. After skimming and reading some posts on this thread, I didn't find one argument against what @Rockford said that had any value. His theory and accusations pertaining to the original post are true and many men suffer with this if they don't command otherwise in their households. I command otherwise in my household and my command is honored. Even dressing a certain way to stimulate my eyes only at home is expected and obeyed.
No wonder today's women are behaving badly. There are no consenquences.
Exactly.
True patriarchy means that men don’t get to butt in to other men’s homes. If what is being referred to here is that iron clad rule being enforced then you’re all just nuts.
You don’t get to sit in judgement of another man’s woman and you damn sure don’t get to call her out. Most men have all they can handle managing their own homes and in all my years I’ve yet to meet a man even remotely qualified to manage another man’s home.
Women are also on a journey from flawed brokenness towards a more perfect representation of the church. If they’re making progress then they shouldn’t be beat down for not being all the way there yet.
There’s no perfect men and there’s no perfect women. If we need to handle something with leadership then pick a moderator and start a conversation.
You don’t get to sit in judgement of another man’s woman and you damn sure don’t get to call her out. Most men have all they can handle managing their own homes and in all my years I’ve yet to meet a man even remotely qualified to manage another man’s home.
Women are also on a journey from flawed brokenness towards a more perfect representation of the church. If they’re making progress then they shouldn’t be beat down for not being all the way there yet.
There’s no perfect men and there’s no perfect women. If we need to handle something with leadership then pick a moderator and start a conversation.