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Matthew 19:9 Adultery in unjustified divorce and remarriage
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I think your point would be better made, if you note that Jesus said that the husband who does this, CAUSES his wife to commit adultery. In other words, yes, she is committing adultery when she remarries, but her husband who divorced her, is held responsible for her committing that adultery.
I wish you guys hadn’t of resurrected this thread. Some guys said some ludicrous things I missed before and I’m now feeling tempted to test the new moderation system.
#walkaway
It’s what’s for breakfast. (Ok, it’s what I’m having for breakfast, you are welcome to join me
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I’m walking. You can only beat someone round about the head with the truth so many times before your arm gets tired.#walkaway
It’s what’s for breakfast. (Ok, it’s what I’m having for breakfast, you are welcome to join me
Care to make some bullet point objections without naming names?
I'm curious to know.
You pricked my appetite with your Turkish Delight. Will I regret taking a bite?
Zec: "I'm gonna do it... any second now..."
Steve: "Don't do it!!!"
Zec: "Yeah, I won't do it"
Mojo:
Steve: "Don't do it!!!"
Zec: "Yeah, I won't do it"
Mojo:
Remember the disclaimer I had about I would argue a side just to see how one came to that conclusion. Plus my views might be slightly different now. Still hold to the fact that apostasy is spiritual adultery. If it's something I said mention it I'll either correct myself or argue.
Disclaimer: I didn't, and probably won't go back and read all 6 pages of this (unless forced to) so if this was answered, just let me know on which page.
Spiritual adultery? Is that like emotional adultery? If so, then I can see where the feathers get ruffled. If that can be spelled out in explicit scriptural terms, I will give you the slow clap from a 1980s movie.
Spiritual adultery? Is that like emotional adultery? If so, then I can see where the feathers get ruffled. If that can be spelled out in explicit scriptural terms, I will give you the slow clap from a 1980s movie.
I’m not going to do it. I made my case in the thread and it stands. Some of the rebuttals weren’t as intellectually .rigorous as one would have hoped.
I don't see either Spiritual adultery or emotional adultery as grounds for a husband to divorce any of his wives. The word used in Matt 5:32, is "porneia".
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The Apostate choose death over life. Was once grafted in the tree of life but broken off and is unable to be grafted back in. No one is bound in marriage to the dead. So, one can say an Apostate abandons the wife and children his Master gave him and chooses to be set free or made a widow through apostasy. To me its the same when an Apostate is concerned. Before you quote scripture about staying married to unbelievers, there is a difference between an unbeliever an an apostate. There is also a difference between someone who is backsliding or in rebellion against The Father and an Apostate. There is always hope for unbelievers and those in rebellion to repent and turn from their sin. The Apostate knows who Yeshua is, had a relationship and choose to turn away.
“Porneia” would cover adultery. It means “prohibited sexual acts” and refers back to all of the sexual laws in the Law.
I’d say that Ezra exampled divorce for spiritual adultery. And Solomon would no doubt have a difference of opinion in hindsight.
I agree, but it would not cover spiritual adultery, unless that Spiritual adultery involved one of your wives sleeping with a male (or perhaps female) temple prostitute, and it most certainly would not cover emotional adultery.
Well it has some founding, but it's more of a projection thing. Women are the monogamous sex and tend to emotionally bond with only one man at a time. So for them it is almost indistinguishable from adultery.
Which also explains why wives have a hard time when a man starts courting other wives, or talks of doing so in theory and the ever present worry they're being replaced.
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Exactly, and it involves her allegiance being transferred, which is what makes it adultery.
Males have the ability to be allied with more than one woman at a time.