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Benefits and drawbacks to "legal" wife

LovesDogs said:
It can be a drawback for additional wives though. Additional wives have absolutely no legal claim to anything they've contributed to the household of a legally married couple or any financial security if anything ever happens to the husband, the legal wife has control of the household assets and finances. It's something many people on here don't like to acknowledge for some reason lol
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The issue of contribution varies from state to state. The issue of inheritance and assets can be handled with a trust in any state.
MeganC said:
No question about handling health care issues for Steve or the kids.
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The issue of medical decisions won't even come up in most cases. If you say you're the wife/mother they'll listen. If it becomes an issue then you can whip out the medical power of attorney and lawyer business card.

But if something becomes an issue of medical decisions with kids all this is moot. The state will happily take control of your children at the drop of a hat in order to maximally harm them and extract as much money out of you / the government as possible.

Your daily reminder that doctors are evil.
 
LovesDogs said:
Even if those assets and inheritances belong to the legal wife and her children first?
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That's the opposite of how a trust works.
I'm the trustee over a trust. The legal entity owns the assets, I as the trustee am empowered to dispose of the real estate and property within the trust to the benefit of the beneficiaries. The beneficiary absolutely does not own the property, nor has a right to direct the use or disposition of the assets contained in the trust.
You don't own the property owned by the company you work for. You can still use the company truck, wear the company safety gear, use the company tools. But the stuff doesn't belong to you. Same thing with a trust. The trust entity owns the property (kind of).
 
NickF said:
That's the opposite of how a trust works.
I'm the trustee over a trust. The legal entity owns the assets, I as the trustee am empowered to dispose of the real estate and property within the trust to the benefit of the beneficiaries. The beneficiary absolutely does not own the property, nor has a right to direct the use or disposition of the assets contained in the trust.
You don't own the property owned by the company you work for. You can still use the company truck, wear the company safety gear, use the company tools. But the stuff doesn't belong to you. Same thing with a trust. The trust entity owns the property (kind of).
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That's interesting. I'm still confused as to how the properties and assets get into the trust to begin with though?
 
The Revolting Man said:
Yes. I read it in a secret book that’s more reliable than the law code and if only you would read it you wouldn’t be a moron anymore. I hope you find the right book! Shalom!
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Oh I see it now, I did call him a moron. That was a personal attack. In my defense I was mocking how he talks to everyone else. In a way it was really him calling himself a moron. And I did imply he could quit being a moron so all in all not the most vicious attack of all time.
 
NickF said:
@MeganC commented on a recent thread that there are some important reasons to have a "legal" wife in a plural family dynamic. I'd love to hear some discussion on this, flesh it out, and as something additionally helpful, I thought others might have some input on positives and negatives.
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According to my research there is absolutely not ONE good reason or shred of evidence for any importance to have a "legal wife" that cannot be replicated with legal paperwork that offers the woman more security and gives the man more autonomy over his affairs. Pray and ask for wisdom the most high will lead.
When the holy spirit led me to research and I found out the depths, I prayed to YAH as to how to speak to my "legal wife", I never spoke to her, however, he gave her a dream the following night that shook her which led her to come to me, I told her about my prayer she simply said, whatever you have to do, do it.
The "legal wife" is literally a spiritual stronghold.

We wrestle NOT against flesh and blood beloved...
 
YAHites said:
According to my research there is absolutely not ONE good reason or shred of evidence for any importance to have a "legal wife" that cannot be replicated with legal paperwork that offers the woman more security and gives the man more autonomy over his affairs. Pray and ask for wisdom the most high will lead.
When the holy spirit led me to research and I found out the depths, I prayed to YAH as to how to speak to my "legal wife", I never spoke to her, however, he gave her a dream the following night that shook her which led her to come to me, I told her about my prayer she simply said, whatever you have to do, do it.
The "legal wife" is literally a spiritual stronghold.

We wrestle NOT against flesh and blood beloved...
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There is not one downside of having a legal wife that can’t still be visited on you if you have children with a woman.
 
YAHites said:
Are you able to elaborate and clarify for understanding and an informed response ?
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Yes. I had a very messy divorce from a legal wife and a custody battle with a girlfriend. I’m not proud of any of this obviously.

The processes were identical. There was not one difference in how they unfolded or the steps that were gone through. I suffered all of the same indignities in front of all the same people and THERE WAS NOT ONE ADDED OR DELETED STEP between the two experiences.

The only advantage to not getting a marriage license is between the man and the woman. If the woman is adamant about it to an unhealthy degree it can be an act of submission for her to let that go.

There is one aspect of a “divorce” to consider in addition. Alimony is tax deductible. Child support is not. Alimony is not very prevalent these days but there MAY be scenarios where it has positive tax implications. At least that’s what a lawyer told me at the time.

I understand that we all have some shibboleths around certain topics and this marriage license thing has taken on a life if its own but it really is just a piece of paper that has administrative uses. Those uses might not be valuable to some and they might be useful to others. But the paper itself carries zero weight one way or the other.

I’m a little amused when folks are naive enough to think any government would constrain itself because someone hadn’t signed a paper. That’s not how tyrannies work. The rules are for you, not them.
 
The Revolting Man said:
The processes were identical. There was not one difference in how they unfolded or the steps that were gone through. I suffered all of the same indignities in front of all the same people and THERE WAS NOT ONE ADDED OR DELETED STEP between the two experiences.
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The dissolution may have been similar but that’s only focusing on the negative outcome. If you’re focusing on a dissolution then you’re already starting a marriage with a handicap.

If you’re focused on a positive outcome, there are myriad legal and financial reasons a legal marriage license is a good idea. I work at a tax firm. It makes a difference.
 
RE: "no difference" between licensed marriage and those which honor YHVH alone:

To Whom do you go for protection"? (If Yah be God, then serve Him; If Baal - well, go to HIM for your protection).

It's more than that. Those who understand Numbers 30 KNOW that a man who agrees to be subject to a "jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and law" - as Jefferson put it, in the Declaration - have literally "made a deal with the devil." And INVITED "another master" into a relationship where he has NO BUSINESS.

That does NOT MEAN THE ADVERSARY WON'T TRY to destroy you anyway! But if you INVITE him to have 'authority' over your house - "they have their reward." And such a 'man of the house' may well find it was never HIS house to begin with.
 
We chose not to have the state as a third party. I think it does make a difference. Yes, there are financial "incentives" to choose to contract with the state, but there are blessings in choosing not to.
 
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southernphotini said:
If you’re focused on a positive outcome, there are myriad legal and financial reasons a legal marriage license is a good idea. I work at a tax firm. It makes a difference.
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Depending where you live. It makes no tax difference where we live.
And I'm sure a good tax firm could find ways to minimise the difference where you live! ;)
 
Mark C said:
RE: "no difference" between licensed marriage and those which honor YHVH alone:

To Whom do you go for protection"? (If Yah be God, then serve Him; If Baal - well, go to HIM for your protection).

It's more than that. Those who understand Numbers 30 KNOW that a man who agrees to be subject to a "jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and law" - as Jefferson put it, in the Declaration - have literally "made a deal with the devil." And INVITED "another master" into a relationship where he has NO BUSINESS.

That does NOT MEAN THE ADVERSARY WON'T TRY to destroy you anyway! But if you INVITE him to have 'authority' over your house - "they have their reward." And such a 'man of the house' may well find it was never HIS house to begin with.
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So allegedly this melodramatic peddler of doomer porn has blocked me so he won’t see this response but, none of this is true. A marriage license does not give a government any authority in your home it doesn’t claim already.

If a licensed wife calls the cops and says she’s afraid of you just as many cops will show up as if an unlicensed girlfriend called the cops and said she was scared of you. If you go to court then all of the same things can happen to you either way.

I have signed multiple marriage licenses now. There were no contracts or even clauses. I didn’t agree to anything at all.

In some states a licensed wife can not be compelled to testify against her husband so there’s actually some real good to it.

If your God is so weak that His institutions can be hijacked by a secular contract you never even saw then you’re serving the wrong God.
 
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