I have not read all of this forum, but I do recall the conversations on Pete's Telegram. I was apart of it, and no, I don't get on here too often.
But there were many reasons explained why men preferred young and untouched, and I won't go into all those reasons, I think they are perfectly clear.
But for the women with children, there is risk. It wasn't that no man (or men) in there (such as myself) aren't interested in women with children, it is that we have to weigh the risk vs benefit.
One thing I pointed out was that, if a woman with child was brought into a established family and things went sideways, such as the father of the child got the law involved and made a massive stink, the husband of that family has now put his whole entire family at risk of being torn apart, and if that family is torn apart then what good does it do anyone involved? None. He may go to jail, now the women are without a husband, or worse, the women go their own ways and now there is no family. He lost everything, they lost everything and now they have to start over.
Now, IF that woman with child joins a family and the father of that child is diseased, then there is no competition, no one to interfere in those family affairs, other than the potential junk attempts by the law out of ignorance, control and manipulation.
So, in reply to your subject line; True and False and all counts. Situations will vary.
I know that I myself am not apposed to taking on a woman with child, but there will be MUCH to discuss. Lots of details to work out, she needs to be a good fit in the family, needs to be extremely committed and willing to submit to her new husband and the new husband will clearly understand that he's not just taking her on, he's taking on a new child that he is going to take care of as if this child is his own, and she has to acknowledge that he is being selfless in this act. He is bearing a burden that was not his to bear, out of love, kindness and in some ways self sacrificing.
But again, the risk vs benefit (specially in today's society) has to be weighed, just as it does in any potential relationship. There is always risk, but does the benefit outweigh the risks.
Benefits to the husband would be things such as, but not limited to...
Is she submissive?
Does she love everyone involved? The other wife (or wives), children, ect
What does she bring to the table?
Does she move the family closer to the family's goal?
Does she remove a burden from someone else in the family and lighten their load?
Is she picking up responsibilities that were someone else's to bear?
Is she drama free and able to regulate herself and others?
@KarenJeanLovesYHWH I'm not trying to be mean or uncaring. The fact of the matter is we all make mistakes. We all suffer for these mistakes. Some mistakes stick with us longer than others. Sin (transgression of the law) is forgiven but the consequences of our sins still linger. That is a matter of fact in life, and there is nothing anyone can do about it other than to repent and attempt to sin no more, but we still have to bear the burden of those mistakes or choices.
Now, no one in that thread said that no man is willing to take on a woman with child. We just pointed out that a woman without children are easier to take care of and integrate into a family than a woman with children. Just as it is easier to take care of yourself when it is just you by yourself without children.
Children are a blessing, but they bring additional responsibility, use time and other required resources to care for.
Just like getting a vehicle. Sure, it provides transportation, allows you to do things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do and travel further than you can on foot and faster, but you have to pay for fuel, change the oil, replace tires and other things that break. A vehicle's potential benefits outweigh the burden and responsibility. Though that is not the case for everybody. Not everyone wants or needs a vehicle, but many people do have them none the less.
The same could be said for finding a wife or husband. Does the potential benefits outweigh the burdens and/or responsibilities?
Is the single woman bringing qualities to the table that make the husband want her to join the family because she brings value?
But there were many reasons explained why men preferred young and untouched, and I won't go into all those reasons, I think they are perfectly clear.
But for the women with children, there is risk. It wasn't that no man (or men) in there (such as myself) aren't interested in women with children, it is that we have to weigh the risk vs benefit.
One thing I pointed out was that, if a woman with child was brought into a established family and things went sideways, such as the father of the child got the law involved and made a massive stink, the husband of that family has now put his whole entire family at risk of being torn apart, and if that family is torn apart then what good does it do anyone involved? None. He may go to jail, now the women are without a husband, or worse, the women go their own ways and now there is no family. He lost everything, they lost everything and now they have to start over.
Now, IF that woman with child joins a family and the father of that child is diseased, then there is no competition, no one to interfere in those family affairs, other than the potential junk attempts by the law out of ignorance, control and manipulation.
So, in reply to your subject line; True and False and all counts. Situations will vary.
I know that I myself am not apposed to taking on a woman with child, but there will be MUCH to discuss. Lots of details to work out, she needs to be a good fit in the family, needs to be extremely committed and willing to submit to her new husband and the new husband will clearly understand that he's not just taking her on, he's taking on a new child that he is going to take care of as if this child is his own, and she has to acknowledge that he is being selfless in this act. He is bearing a burden that was not his to bear, out of love, kindness and in some ways self sacrificing.
But again, the risk vs benefit (specially in today's society) has to be weighed, just as it does in any potential relationship. There is always risk, but does the benefit outweigh the risks.
Benefits to the husband would be things such as, but not limited to...
Is she submissive?
Does she love everyone involved? The other wife (or wives), children, ect
What does she bring to the table?
Does she move the family closer to the family's goal?
Does she remove a burden from someone else in the family and lighten their load?
Is she picking up responsibilities that were someone else's to bear?
Is she drama free and able to regulate herself and others?
@KarenJeanLovesYHWH I'm not trying to be mean or uncaring. The fact of the matter is we all make mistakes. We all suffer for these mistakes. Some mistakes stick with us longer than others. Sin (transgression of the law) is forgiven but the consequences of our sins still linger. That is a matter of fact in life, and there is nothing anyone can do about it other than to repent and attempt to sin no more, but we still have to bear the burden of those mistakes or choices.
Now, no one in that thread said that no man is willing to take on a woman with child. We just pointed out that a woman without children are easier to take care of and integrate into a family than a woman with children. Just as it is easier to take care of yourself when it is just you by yourself without children.
Children are a blessing, but they bring additional responsibility, use time and other required resources to care for.
Just like getting a vehicle. Sure, it provides transportation, allows you to do things you wouldn't otherwise be able to do and travel further than you can on foot and faster, but you have to pay for fuel, change the oil, replace tires and other things that break. A vehicle's potential benefits outweigh the burden and responsibility. Though that is not the case for everybody. Not everyone wants or needs a vehicle, but many people do have them none the less.
The same could be said for finding a wife or husband. Does the potential benefits outweigh the burdens and/or responsibilities?
Is the single woman bringing qualities to the table that make the husband want her to join the family because she brings value?
I’m sorry that’s not what I was going to say but it popped in my heart and I couldn’t help myself
