The Christian Polygamy Movement - Dr. Gardoski

[Tlaloc]

I invited him to discuss here, I doubt he will come but I thought it was worth a shot. Watch for his topic just in case.

 

[lutherangirl]

Hi Michelle,

Concerning your uncle, is he Lutheran? If he is, you can always remind him about how Luther embraced polygyny as a option for believers - and did not consider it a sin! BTW, I do not know if I ever shared with you that I was raised Lutheran, and graduated from a Lutheran Seminary. I am not a Lutheran today, but thought I would just share a little bit about my background.

Blessings

Pastor Randy,

My uncle was a Lutheran, but I think he is kinda non-denominational now. He is a Bible translator and knows many, many languages. I think he mainly focuses on salvation through Jesus Christ making sure to translate the Bible into that particular languages of the villages he is working with. I do wonder what he would say if I told him about Luther embracing pm? Is the issue of plural marriage why you aren't a Lutheran anymore?

I've really enjoy your balanced viewpoints that you bring to these forums--that must come from your Lutheran roots.

Michelle

 

[DaPastor]

Pastor Randy:

We've talked on other threads about demographics. I've found myself wondering about the basis for the assertion (seen elsewhere too, it seems to be common) that "during this time less than 10% of the Israelites had 2 or more wives."

The source of my skepticism comes from the time of the Exodus. Admittedly the practice could well have changed over time as Israel repeatedly attempted to lose their unique identity among the surrounding heathen nations.

But, as I understand it, one of the Egyptians' excuses for enslaving Israel in the first place was that theeir population was growing so rapidly in comparison to the Egyptions. Was that because the Israelite women enjoyed a shorter gestation period than the Egyptian? Or was it because the Egyptians were monogamist while the Jews were widely polygamist? So much so that the growth rate difference was not insidious or subtle, but distinctly alarming? Though I've seen no proof either way, my guess would be the latter.

A seeming confirmation, and possibility that God specifically intended to USE this situation occurs as they enter Canaan. God tells them that He'll drive the inhabitants out before them as their population expands to fill the country. This seems to imply that their population will be expanding rapidly enough to require more land fairly rapidly.

Just my thoughts ...

Hi Cecil,

If my memory serves me right I recieved this information from David Instone-Brewer, Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context, but I cannot remember right now. I think this deserves more research for sure. Thanks!

 

[DaPastor]

I invited him to discuss here, I doubt he will come but I thought it was worth a shot. Watch for his topic just in case.

He is probably too busy for this small site, but I am sure we would welcome the discussion. My only fear is that some here might get too emotional to handle a legitimate discussion on the matter and end up name calling and such - that would be very embarassing! Some people do not know how to engage in a debate without throwing stones!

 

[DaPastor]

Hi Michelle,

Pastor Randy,

My uncle was a Lutheran, but I think he is kinda non-denominational now. He is a Bible translator and knows many, many languages. I think he mainly focuses on salvation through Jesus Christ making sure to translate the Bible into that particular languages of the villages he is working with. I do wonder what he would say if I told him about Luther embracing pm? Is the issue of plural marriage why you aren't a Lutheran anymore?

I've really enjoy your balanced viewpoints that you bring to these forums--that must come from your Lutheran roots.

One of my core values is to hopefully be theologically balanced, meaning, I desire to understand Scripture from a wholistic approach. I think that we as believers have a tendency to gravitate to extremes on one side, and neglect the bigger doctrinal picture on the other side. However, since I am just as human as everyone else, holding this value doesn't automatically mean that I always end up balance. On the lighter side, my wives would probably argue that I am not balanced at all...lol

Actually, I left Lutheranism because over the issues of church government, infant baptism, biblical worship and speaking in tongues. If you ever want to discuss these things, just PM me. Because this site is a inter-denominational site, it would cause too much controvery to discuss these things openly. Anyway, blessings Michelle!

 

[lutherangirl]

Hi Michelle,

One of my core values is to hopefully be theologically balanced, meaning, I desire to understand Scripture from a wholistic approach. I think that we as believers have a tendency to gravitate to extremes on one side, and neglect the bigger doctrinal picture on the other side. However, since I am just as human as everyone else, holding this value doesn't automatically mean that I always end up balance. On the lighter side, my wives would probably argue that I am not balanced at all...lol

Actually, I left Lutheranism because over the issues of church government, infant baptism, biblical worship and speaking in tongues. If you ever want to discuss these things, just PM me. Because this site is a inter-denominational site, it would cause too much controvery to discuss these things openly. Anyway, blessings Michelle!

Pastor Randy,

I'm struggling with similar issues myself right now, but at this point I don't know of another church that I would attend. It seems like I find a few hiccups with each church that I research. I guess I've decided to stay put at the church I'm at and just kinda do my own thing as well (I guess I should say God's thing).

Michelle