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Study on Number of Non-Marital Partners & Marriage Stability

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I guess my real concern here is that I don't think a boy or girl that young is mature enough to make life long decisions that can't be taken back, like having kids that you are in no way prepared or equipped to support.

That goes for the men too.
 
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donnag said:
Likewise, not all beliefs from an ancient culture would work now either.
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We all, myself included, have parts of the Bible we decide are relevant for today, and others we feel free to treat as no longer relevant.

Given that human sexual activity seems to occur around the same ages it always has, I see the issue as to whether we would provide a culture where marriage and permanent relationships would be encouraged (the ancient culture viewpoint), or whether we are happy with the random coupling that occurs and try to stem the tide with purity pledges (how that can effectively stop a 15 year gap between puberty and marriage I have no idea).

As for maturity issues, it is a mature decision to take a conceived life and around 1 million of those decisions are made each year in the USA under the current cultural arrangements.

ylop
 
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Donnag wrote, "I don't think a boy or girl that young is mature enough to make life long decisions that can't be taken back,"
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Agreed, hence my position that people, specially parents practice and teace personal responsibility. Guys and girls at those young ages have all the mental and physical as well as spiritual raw material to make and keep solid comittments. They have been doing it around the world until the last 1.5 centuries or so in the west. In other parts of the world they are doing so still today.
The problem in the west is that we are raising our children to be big kids instead of powerful adults. God's Word says that it is good for a man to bear the yoke in his youth, in another place there are many references to disciplining children for their profit. We say today, "Let them enjoy their childhood", as if childhood is the goal of life. We have strayed way too far from the path of maturity and productivity that our Maker designed.
 
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Yolp-As for maturity issues, it is a mature decision to take a conceived life and around 1 million of those decisions are made each year in the USA under the current cultural arrangements.

I don't think so. It SHOULD be a mature decision, but in fact, I think it's a total lack of maturity and any decision making process at all that results in all those 'omg how did this happen to me' miracle moments.

I don't know how to think about abortion. It seems to be that a lot of women and girls who get them are using that as birth control.

Of course I haven't seen a lot of churches stepping up and supporting those young mothers and offering to take the babies and raise them either. -----Another thing my family talks about a lot.

(sorry I can't figure out how to highlight and copy a quote, no matter what I try it hasn't worked so far)
 
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donnag - you click on the quote button for the post you would like to quote. you can then delete some of it if too long.

I will explain a bit more - life or death for a new child is a very serious decision, a mature decision, but yes of course it is being made by immature minds.

My point is that, these children are being conceived by the bucketload, generally outside marriage, in a culture that thinks it is okay (or at least tolerated). Marriage is not even considered here. We are light-years away from the Biblical concept of marrying the pregnant woman.

ylop stepping in a bucket
 
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John Whitten said:
The problem in the west is that we are raising our children to be big kids instead of powerful adults. God's Word says that it is good for a man to bear the yoke in his youth, in another place there are many references to disciplining children for their profit. We say today, "Let them enjoy their childhood", as if childhood is the goal of life. We have strayed way too far from the path of maturity and productivity that our Maker designed.
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Good post John.

Must dash, I am working on today's chores list for the kids ;)

ylop
 
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donnag said:
Of course I haven't seen a lot of churches stepping up and supporting those young mothers and offering to take the babies and raise them either. -----Another thing my family talks about a lot.
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Actually, there are many churches actively involved in crisis pregnancy ministries. My church included. You can also look in the Yellow Pages under "abortion" and "abortion alternatives" and find ads for Christian groups willing to help pregnant women. There are even groups on Facebook and Myspace, as well, that will help connect a female to a CPM.
Blessings,
Fairlight
 
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ylop said:
I will explain a bit more - life or death for a new child is a very serious decision, a mature decision
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And one that we don't have a right to make! Abortion is the deliberate murder of a child.

Blessings,
Fairlight
 
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donnag said:
I guess my real concern here is that I don't think a boy or girl that young is mature enough to make life long decisions that can't be taken back, like having kids that you are in no way prepared or equipped to support.

That goes for the men too.
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well, the culture in the bible times was different. girls married younger, but they married boys that were older and had established themselves in the occupation that would support the family.
not like in our culture where the only criteria is to be in love (or pregnant)
boys had to earn the right to be considered for the position of husband.

as far as handling the children at a young age, the families were much more seamless than in our individualistic society and the new mother did not raise her children alone during the day. (30 persons in the same household?)

and with the poly option, girls had more possibilities to choose from. so the competition on the guys part was greater.
poly (done right) really does empower the girls to a much greater degree than our society does. in this present day the focus is more on the girls making a good "catch", which empowers the guys in an unhealthy way.
 
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Yes I've tried that quote button several times but so far it hasn't worked for me. I'm not sure why.
 
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Donnag, If you press the left mouse button and holding it down drag the cursor over the text you wish to copy and then release the button, you will have highlighted a portion of text. Then put the cursor on the highlighted text and press the right button, a menu will appear, left click on the word "copy". Then put your cursor in the new message box, right click and then click on the word "paste". Then highlight the new text that appears and click in the quote box above. Some code will appear at the beginning and the end of your copied test. It will show up as a shaded quote box in the preview and posted article. You may add comments below the copied text.
Hope this helps.
 
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what indicates that this age has gotten lowered from a previously higher age?
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I remember that, while researching for my dissertation, I found something that said the age was lowered as part of the "same-sex marriage" bill in the state under question - which turns out to be NH, as in your post.

But that factoid is not in my dissertation, so I did not (apparently) keep the notes on it, either. Sorry for the bad memory.

If only I could find my head...
 
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Ha Ha, I'm looking for mine right now....I think my chihuahuas have been playing with it.....
 
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