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Would it be inhumane to suggest feeding them live to hungry pigs? Asking for a friend...
 
Guys, old testament law has two key things.

Death penalty for killing innocent people.
No judge immunity.

So, if you send someone to electric chair and later is found out that innocent person was executed you (as judge) go to electric chair. You have killed innocent person.
 
Would it be inhumane to suggest feeding them live to hungry pigs? Asking for a friend...
That’s one way to create fertilizer.
 
I think that the terms individualism and collectivism are already very outdated. The two can mean different things depending on the context.
 
I had a fantastic day today, major milestone as a father.
Taught my eldest son to use a chainsaw, and was able to spend the day working alongside him cutting firewood. It's great to have a young man to teach and work with. He had a great time also, and still has all his toes. :)
 
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I had a fantastic day today, major milestone as a father.
Taught my son to use a chainsaw, and was able to spend the day working alongside him cutting firewood. It's great to have a young man to teach and work with. He had a great time also, and still has all his toes. :)
Good job dad! Got to teach boys to be men!
I remember being nervous about our boys using those. Now they use them in trees....very well.
 
I remember being nervous about our boys using those.
Yes. It's rather nerve-wracking teaching them! I had him limbing fallen trees too, since he had the smaller saw (I was cutting rings), and that is a job that takes a large amount of care. Watched him use a full tank before I was comfortable picking up the other saw and taking my eye off him - but by that stage I wasn't worrying about him any more. He's very sensible and was soon able to recognise what was beyond his skill level and stay clear of it, leaving the potentially dangerous bits to me.

You have to keep your mind on many different potential hazards when working with fallen timber, but it's probably highly beneficial to learn how to think like that. Every cut is different. If you can learn to cut up fallen wood safely, you can probably do any job safely.
 
Every cut is different. If you can learn to cut up fallen wood safely, you can probably do any job safely.
Well said! My hubby has stressed to our sons the need to know what the limb is going to do before you make the cut. They trim and remove trees, and have a very good safety record (thank YHWH) that we hope they don't get casual about.
To illustrate the risk on even down timber,
an elderly neighbor of ours was frugal and did not want to afford the cost of hiring our crew to remove a very large fallen cottonwood tree. He was working on it himself one afternoon while his wife was napping and she got up to find him dead, pinned by a large section that shifted and knocked him to the ground. There was still a lot of weight on his chest when our guys got there, as fire department responders, and moved it off of him. I dispatched that call. He didn't see it coming and died with his boots on working outside at 84 years of age! I'm sure had God asked him he would have picked that over passing away in a hospital. That said we hope our crew learned a certain amount of respect for the danger large trees present. As a wife and mom I am tremendously comforted by the stories that prove beyond doubt that our heavenly father has taken care of these men I love. That makes it easy for my heart to sing psalms.... I will sing of the mercies of YHWH forever!
 
We are acutely aware of the risk, as a local man and old family friend, in his 60s so fit and well experienced, died in exactly the same way as that just a few months ago, clearing fallen trees that came down in the same storm these ones did. And another neighbour lost a young son many decades ago this way.

The trunks we were working with came down almost a year ago, from a hedge, and we disconnected them from the stumps to fix the fence back then. So they weren't freshly fallen and didn't have much stress in them, and were safe enough for a beginner. But by no means risk-free!
 
Most of the older men I have seen die in accidents usually die from pickup trucks and ladders. I sometimes joke with Steve that he'll know when I'm really mad at him because I'll buy him a ladder.
 
Most of the older men I have seen die in accidents usually die from pickup trucks and ladders. I sometimes joke with Steve that he'll know when I'm really mad at him because I'll buy him a ladder.
Just don’t buy a wooden ladder on the same receipt as a chainsaw…….
 
We are acutely aware of the risk,
Life just plain ole has risks. Our guys do honey bee relocation too, and we know of people who have been killed by bees.

"Life is fragile, handle with prayer" about sums it up.
 
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