Done, including subsequent discussion.Can we move this post to thread "Poly Practiced Elsewhere"?
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Done, including subsequent discussion.Can we move this post to thread "Poly Practiced Elsewhere"?
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I believe you are mistaken Steve. You seem to be assuming that "brother's wife" in Leviticus 20 verse 21 only refers to the present wife of a living brother, not his widow,.or divorced ex-wife.
As obviously "brother's wife" doesn't mean his current wife, as that is prohibited anyway, everyone is applying this only to brother's ex-wife:There is a verse that prohibits marrying your brother's or uncle's woman....assumed to be a former wife, as in divorced, or otherwise this is redundant.
If I've got that correct, please clarify why you class a divorced woman as still belonging to her former husband - still being "his woman". Surely a divorce (not just putting away, a correctly executed divorce) makes her completely free as per Deuteronomy 24:2, free to remarry. So she is no longer "his woman".
It may be.Given there is no relevant scriptural distinction given between widows and divorcees that I can see, is it not more reasonable to take the consistent approach that @Bartato has taken and apply this prohibition to both?
But then how do you understand Lev. 20:21?It is arbitrary and unreasonable to deduce what the Writer of the Bible means by what He doesn’t say.
Possible scenario: A husband destroys his family, one way or another, and his brother chooses to marry the woman as a sister wife, bringing the children into his family.
Fulfilling the Acts recommendation that the younger widows marry, while keeping extended family together.
(The word for widow does not specify the death of a husband, just that she was bereft of one)
I can only assume, and that is all that we are doing here, is that to take your brother’s wife from him is not only sin, but an especially wicked sin.But then how do you understand Lev. 20:21?
What is wicked? Any man's wife is already forbidden and adultery, so why specifically talk about the brother's woman?
Gold!It is arbitrary and unreasonable to deduce what the Writer of the Bible means by what He doesn’t say.
I doubt we would have such detailed instructions if the take-home-message was that minor and near meaningless.I can only assume, and that is all that we are doing here, is that to take your brother’s wife from him is not only sin, but an especially wicked sin.
Thanks.
But if the woman and man are divorced then they are NOT married and she is free to have a different husband(even ex's brother). To be "ex" is to be divorced. To be separated and not divorced is to be put away but still married. Divorce grants her freedom.I can only assume, and that is all that we are doing here, is that to take your brother’s wife from him is not only sin, but an especially wicked sin.
One thing to consider in that equation is that, otherwise, a man would have the power to consign his woman to a life of abject loneliness and poverty just by putting her away.But if the woman and man are divorced then they are NOT married and she is free to have a different husband(even ex's brother). To be "ex" is to be divorced. To be separated and not divorced is to be put away but still married. Divorce grants her freedom.
maybe, if he has the Tower of London to "store" her in or the power of a monarch to decree such loneliness. Other than that, natural desires will get in the way and she will join another with or without a divorce. Women have libido too if they are healthy.One thing to consider in that equation is that, otherwise, a man would have the power to consign his woman to a life of abject loneliness and poverty just by putting her away.
Economics may have been more the driving factor.maybe, if he has the Tower of London to "store" her in or the power of a monarch to decree such loneliness. Other than that, natural desires will get in the way and she will join another with or without a divorce. Women have libido too if they are healthy.
Is that how he got the name Shaqu?