The Kaaba in Mecca was once a temple to the Nabatean deity Hubal. A former ancient Egyptian pagan temple in Luxor was covered with the Abu Haggag mosque. Of course there's the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople, and the attempted so-called "ground zero mosque" in NYC. There's even a fringe theory that the Taj Mahal was originally a Hindu temple. So that would be completely in line with their historical Modus Operandi.
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Notre Dame Cathedral Burns
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One of the stories that came up in that search has this excerpt, which I'm adding to the list of unintentional double meanings in the reporting (if you'll pardon the 'French')
"A cock... was found in the debris with significant damage." (they mean a rooster!!!)
I followed your link, and this article showed up in the feed. I just copied the first paragraph.
“On Thursday - just days before the historic Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris, France became engulfed in a massive fire - a group of religious statues was taken down from the top of the building for the first time in over a century as a part of repairs to the building's spire, the Associated Press reports.”
That’s quite the coincidence.
The fires hadn't been burning but a couple of hours and the French authorities had already declared they were opening an investigation of it as an accident. Reminds me of 911 when the media was declaring Osama bin Laudin the culprit before the towers had even fell. Narrative over truth; which is why Fox News was hanging up on guests who challenged that narrative.
In normal times you'd think, oh construction accident. But when last year 875 churches were attacked, when last month there was an arson attack against the second largest church in France, when every day at least 2 churches are hit, the rust to call it an accident isn't credible.
Even if the Mussies didn't do it, they're cheering its destruction and had tried to attack the site before.
I've heard a couple youtubers say that the fire started in two different locations (which means arson), but I haven't been able to find corroboration on that yet.
The media I found previously quoted authorities saying who was behind the string of church attacks was a mystery. Yet they actually arrested two teenage girls who were caught setting one on fire. No mention of their association which speaks volumes. And in another case a Pakistani immigrant was convicted of a church attack. But these things have a long history...
In normal times you'd think, oh construction accident. But when last year 875 churches were attacked, when last month there was an arson attack against the second largest church in France, when every day at least 2 churches are hit, the rust to call it an accident isn't credible.
Even if the Mussies didn't do it, they're cheering its destruction and had tried to attack the site before.
I've heard a couple youtubers say that the fire started in two different locations (which means arson), but I haven't been able to find corroboration on that yet.
The media I found previously quoted authorities saying who was behind the string of church attacks was a mystery. Yet they actually arrested two teenage girls who were caught setting one on fire. No mention of their association which speaks volumes. And in another case a Pakistani immigrant was convicted of a church attack. But these things have a long history...
I just realized that this is the first “Catholic” cross Ive seen where Jesus wasn’t on it.
They have a detachable Jesus that they don’t put on until Friday?
Apparent Muslim seen walking around tower during the fire...
Sure looks like traditional Muslim garb. Apparently there were no construction workers on site and the firemen wear bright red.
Turkey celebrates. More from PJW on the three groups that have been caught celebrating online.
Can't remember if I posted this before but priest who works at Notre Dame reported to a TIME columnist it was intentionally set...
Meanwhile leftists think the fire is "an act of liberation" and that the rebuilding of Notre Dame should not reflect “a non-secular, white European France,” but should instead be “a reflection of the France of today, a France that is currently in the making.”
A guess they want to make it into a mosque or something.
Sure looks like traditional Muslim garb. Apparently there were no construction workers on site and the firemen wear bright red.
Turkey celebrates. More from PJW on the three groups that have been caught celebrating online.
Can't remember if I posted this before but priest who works at Notre Dame reported to a TIME columnist it was intentionally set...
Meanwhile leftists think the fire is "an act of liberation" and that the rebuilding of Notre Dame should not reflect “a non-secular, white European France,” but should instead be “a reflection of the France of today, a France that is currently in the making.”
A guess they want to make it into a mosque or something.
So this might be too soon, I thought it was, but my husband was at work all day and didn't hear about the burning. I informed him when he got home from work. Keep in mind he doesn't like to hear sad news at all and will always say something funny to lighten a room, and I catch him often watching a lot of kid movies (kinda like Tony the Tiger eating Frosted Flakes--they're great!) I seriously think he needs to do stand-up comedy. Well, later that night I was reading a book in bed. He came in the bedroom Quasimodo-like over to the side of my bed and said, "Hey, darling, I'm looking for a new place to live." Although so wrong and too soon, I couldn't stop laughing."
Yes, it does belong to the government. Thanks for pointing that out, that's fascinating to investigate. As far as I can see:
Prior to 1789, Roman Catholicism was the state religion, and I think the church and state were so intertwined that the question of which one owned a property may not have been clearly defined.
During the French Revolution, Notre Dame was seized by by the new National Assembly and the church was made a branch of the government and subservient to it. Notre Dame was actually rededicated to the "Cult of Reason" and ransacked. It ended up being used as a warehouse for food storage.
In 1801, Napolean re-established Catholicism as the state religion and handed the wrecked building back to the church. It was later restored, I think at the King's expense.
In 1905 the French government once again declared France as a secular country. All church buildings were declared the property of the State, but were granted to the various churches for their use for free, though remaining the property of the government. I believe the government continued to pay for the maintenance of Notre Dame for many years, although recently maintenance was covered by charity.
So in summary, it's a government building and always has been, just with that ownership defined in different ways. And given the government seems to have largely paid for building, rebuilding and maintenance through much of history, that's actually understandable from a secular legal perspective, even though it disagrees with its dedication to God.
Today the government owns it and simply grants the Catholic church the right to use it. They could easily reassign it to a different group or a different religion entirely, probably completely within the existing 1905 law.
Go Samuel!
Thanx!
Two awesome videos...
This Just Happened In France But Something STRANGER Is Happening Worldwide (2019)
Big picture look at what is going on; the spiritual aspect of this on a world stage. What Satan is up to. And prophecies, dreams and visions of a total destruction of NYC via tsunami. @FollowingHim2
This guy, he saw this coming...
First The Statues & Then The Churches (2017)
This Just Happened In France But Something STRANGER Is Happening Worldwide (2019)
Big picture look at what is going on; the spiritual aspect of this on a world stage. What Satan is up to. And prophecies, dreams and visions of a total destruction of NYC via tsunami. @FollowingHim2
This guy, he saw this coming...
First The Statues & Then The Churches (2017)
BREAKING: NOTRE DAME CHIEF ARCHITECT SAYS THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT
I can easily believe accelerate was involved, it spread really fast. I haven't found the original source video or a translation thereof yet. Other notes from video:
Two different alarms went off. The evacuated after the first alarm but found no fire (failed to take?). A second alarm went off 20 minutes later; while the firefighters were still there. Begs question how it was allowed to get out of control.
Workers gone before fire started. Although news scroller on video says that migrant workers were on site at the time.
They had electronic heat and smoke sensors all over the place...they are what triggered the alarms. They knew exactly where the fire was.
I can easily believe accelerate was involved, it spread really fast. I haven't found the original source video or a translation thereof yet. Other notes from video:
Two different alarms went off. The evacuated after the first alarm but found no fire (failed to take?). A second alarm went off 20 minutes later; while the firefighters were still there. Begs question how it was allowed to get out of control.
Workers gone before fire started. Although news scroller on video says that migrant workers were on site at the time.
They had electronic heat and smoke sensors all over the place...they are what triggered the alarms. They knew exactly where the fire was.
So I believe this particular video at least has been found in full context, and debunked as actually just being a firefighter. (hopefully the Google translate link works). I think the Hale tweet was also recalled as being based on faulty information, which is easy to happen in this kind of situation. The flash in the other video also doesn't mean a whole lot without further context. I'd be careful about placing too much stock in alleged "obvious" evidence that seems to good to be true, which will likely turn out to be false.
OTOH, the recent string of church desecrations indicate an emerging pattern, and demonstrate that there are multiple groups that might have motives (not just Islamic). And of course, there's no incentive for the French government to admit if it were arson, so we likely will never know for sure.
What the architect says is certainly interesting, regarding the need for an accelerant, the recent replacement of the electrical system, and the location the fire started. Though I'd like to hear independant verification.
The I, Pet Goat 2 thing is extremely creepy. Especially since I'd just happened to stumble across it on my own a few days before the fire, so the image of the crumbling church spire was fresh in my subconscious when I watched the real one. And now I'm getting weirded out by predictive programming.
It is a shame, but considering how France fell to the revolutionaries all those years ago, I cant say I particularly pity them. Slaughter believers, burn churches, overthrow God-ordained authorities, and it wont be long until your country is handed over to the heathen and your beautiful temples cast down.
Oh wait. Why does this sound familiar? :/
Oh wait. Why does this sound familiar? :/
I was called alot of unkind names the other day when I said Nortre Dame burning was a good thing and if it turns out Muslims did it even better. For too long the Christian Religion, as a whole, has gone without true persecution. I don't consider Atheist and liberals mocking believers or attempting to manipulate secular institutions persecution. This has caused the assembly to become lazy and complacent. Bloated with the unrepentant who think that because they said the magic Jesus phrase and went swimming in a bathtub that they can continue living the lives they were living in the same manner, and lukewarm believers. War separates the Men from the boys. Persecution separates the faithful from the pretender.
Mathew 3:7-12
“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Therefore produce fruit worthy of repentance; and do not think that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father’! For I tell you that from these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. Already the axe is laid at the root of the trees; therefore every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire! As for me, I immerse you in water for repentance. But the One coming after me is mightier than I am; I am not worthy to carry His sandals. He will immerse you in the Ruach ha-Kodesh and fire. His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He shall clear His threshing floor and gather His wheat into the barn; but the chaff He shall burn up with inextinguishable fire.”
Ok ya that's a lot better quality of video; show's it is a firefighter or some other emergency personnel.
Ok I totally missed that, what is this pet Goat thing you're talking about?
Ya there is very very strong incentive to declare this accidental and cover up anything to the contrary. Which is why they were already saying it was accidental just 2 hrs into the fire. We can pretty much be certain that whatever the truth is, what the government will tell us isn't it.
Ok I totally missed that, what is this pet Goat thing you're talking about?
Ya there is very very strong incentive to declare this accidental and cover up anything to the contrary. Which is why they were already saying it was accidental just 2 hrs into the fire. We can pretty much be certain that whatever the truth is, what the government will tell us isn't it.