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Mexico Killings and LDS Reaction

Many people don't know the difference between Methodists and Baptists, let alone the different factions of Mormonism, Mason said.
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Most Methodists and Baptists don't know the difference between each other. There is no hope the average secular person can tell the different Mormons apart.

And that's what they are, different kinds of Mormon. Nobody cares that these particular people who were victimized weren't part of the big church's hierarchy.
 
Since there is only one Way of salvation, and Mormons of all persuasions have a different way, it will change nothing on the Day of Judgement whether they are LDS or FLDS.
 
frederick said:
Since there is only one Way of salvation, and Mormons of all persuasions have a different way, it will change nothing on the Day of Judgement whether they are LDS or FLDS.
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Most of the Mormons I've come in contact with have a pretty good idea about salvation and it would be hard to say they aren't saved. Just looked Catholics or any other Christian religion. I am sure some are in it for the club aspect but I think a good portion are saved.
 
Cap said:
Most of the Mormons I've come in contact with have a pretty good idea about salvation and it would be hard to say they aren't saved. Just looked Catholics or any other Christian religion. I am sure some are in it for the club aspect but I think a good portion are saved.
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Cap, I would strongly disagree. Jesus said He is the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him. The LDS religion and it's various factions has a different 'Jesus' to the biblical Jesus. Their Jesus is a brother to Lucifer, one of a multitude of gods so not the one true Way of salvation. Either the LDS religion is correct or Jesus Christ is correct, but they both cannot be. Cheers
 
Cap said:
Most of the Mormons I've come in contact with have a pretty good idea about salvation and it would be hard to say they aren't saved. Just looked Catholics or any other Christian religion. I am sure some are in it for the club aspect but I think a good portion are saved.
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They believe in a guy called “jesus” but he’s not the same Jesus of Scripture that christians believe in. There is only one Way, Truth, and Life who is the mediator between God and man, and the entity they believe in isn’t Him.
 
Cap said:
Most of the Mormons I've come in contact with have a pretty good idea about salvation and it would be hard to say they aren't saved. Just looked Catholics or any other Christian religion. I am sure some are in it for the club aspect but I think a good portion are saved.
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They believe in salvation by grace through faith after all we can do, which is essentially a works based salvation, which is indistinguishable from the Catholic doctrine of Christ's work on the cross, being insufficient for salvation.
 
Are any of you guys ex Mormon and know this by facts? You can go to any christiaan church and find people who believe in a type of Jesus but it would be difficult for us to judge them, I think the average Mormon falls into the same category. I have yet to meet one that doesn't describe salvation the way I understand it.
 
None of this dithering about the definition of Jesus matters...

Then Jesus said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it. For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is himself destroyed or lost?
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You'd be hard pressed to find a follower of any "Jesus" who has died to to themselves. They mostly chase after superstitious words and empty rituals to make themselves feel better about the next life so they can continue living for themselves now.
 
LDS uses many of the same words that we use, but they have a different meaning than ours. This can make having a meaningful conversation with them very frustrating if you know what is happening, but very comforting if you don’t.
 
Cap said:
Who is the judge of someone else's dieing?
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You shall know them by their fruits. But my point isn't about any 1 person but about ya'll missing the forest for the trees. It's a commentary on the rotten fruit of the American churches bad gospel.
 
rockfox said:
You shall know them by their fruits. But my point isn't about any 1 person but about ya'll missing the forest for the trees. It's a commentary on the rotten fruit of the American churches bad gospel.
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I believe the point is the 1 person. The church has failed.
 
Cap said:
Are any of you guys ex Mormon and know this by facts? You can go to any christiaan church and find people who believe in a type of Jesus but it would be difficult for us to judge them, I think the average Mormon falls into the same category. I have yet to meet one that doesn't describe salvation the way I understand it.
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Man! If I thought the Mormon church was compatible with Christianity, I would have joined an FLDS group a LONG time ago!
 
Daniel DeLuca said:
Man! If I thought the Mormon church was compatible with Christianity, I would have joined an FLDS group a LONG time ago!
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If I remember correctly you got kicked out of you Christian Church. Your confusing the idea of Christianity as a belief to the man made religion identified as Mormon or Catholic or whatever. I get it you guys hate Mormons. I have meant some really nice people in that religion, more family focused than you might find at your local Methodist Church down the street. And like I said, if they can explain salvation to me that makes sense as far as I know, then I accept thier testimony and let God sort it out.
 
Cap said:
If I remember correctly you got kicked out of you Christian Church. Your confusing the idea of Christianity as a belief to the man made religion identified as Mormon or Catholic or whatever. I get it you guys hate Mormons. I have meant some really nice people in that religion, more family focused than you might find at your local Methodist Church down the street. And like I said, if they can explain salvation to me that makes sense as far as I know, then I accept thier testimony and let God sort it out.
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You don't! I am still a part of that church. I was kicked out of leadership and the orchestra, but am still a regular, who brings his wife and kids every Sunday and kid's friends to church, as often as they are willing to go, which makes it hard for them to kick me out. In addition, wife is still not on board with poly, so they see her as a helpless woman who needs them to convince her husband that he is wrong.

I don't hate Mormons! I hate false teaching, regardless of where it comes from! I have met many myself, and I agree that they are very nice, family focused, at least until you start questioning their teachings, which they will kick you out for as well.

God has already sorted it out in a collection of writings that we call the Bible, which they believe has errors in it. I ascribe to the inerrancy and infallibility of the original manuscripts, and the fidelity of the transliterations. While they believe that the Bible is true, they hold the belief that it has more translation errors in it, than is warranted. I would LOVE to embrace Mormonism, as it would make polygamy SO MUCH easier to embrace and get my family to accept, but I would have to embrace lies that I know go against the Word of God! I CANNOT embrace the concept of God having once been a man, and likewise one day we will be a god, nor would I ever want to do that, as I would most likely end up sacrificing my son for the world that I one day would rule. I could go on.
 
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