Definitely. If they could have used it against Trump they would have. But maybe Epstein just became too big a risk for too many high profile players. Look what happened to Prince Andrew! Who else was under threat?
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At those upper echelons of important figures, there is no red and blue. It’s only green.
I also agree it could be spy craft stuff. The CIA likely has numerous people by the short hairs and won’t let go.
As reported by several of them, Obama ousted at least 300 flag-ranked officers in the various services who refused to swear allegiance to HIM, as opposed to their oath to the Constitution.
There have been 'rumors' of what are commonly called "white hats" within the services since even before then, and the propensity to promote for PC as opposed to merit (and later DEI + PC) are well-documented. (witness ze BidenFuhrer's Tranny-miral.)
Obama, obviously (has been named) - among others, including Royals. Almost certainly CJ John Roberts, too. ("Justice Blackmail")
All signs of that other nation are leading to…Israel.
Way higher.
He was Jew with Saudi Arabia passport. Imposible to get for Jew usually. There was something else.
Also, you Americans need to cool off with underage girls. Only in USA is crime for middle age man to have sex with under 18 years. For most of world it's minimum 15 or 16 years.
Lol, indeed. In Brazil its 14+. I've read once that the average age of marriage in the biblical times were 12 for the woman and 13 for the man. Not sure if this is true though.
Not sure how it works in other places. But honestly, in Brazil a girl before turning 18 has had more sexual experience than the average man will ever have.
Man_in_the_Middle
Seasoned Member
I agree that the age is arbitrary but, it has to be set somewhere. 3? 5? 12? 18? 21?
I know what end of that list I am going to lean toward and it is not the end with the 3.
Indeed... unless you move to a country where you can entertain something else. And considering you have such crazy woke feminist ideas permeating the minds of many churchianity women in the USA, moving to another country to find a good wife isn't such a bad idea.
Please don’t advise anything that is not legal.
Man_in_the_Middle
Seasoned Member
The reason age is reasonable to be used is because it is easily known and is not subjective. Sexual maturity is subjective and thus either party could claim or disclaim it in order to win the day in court.
If your country sets a certain age you should follow it and avoid any trouble. But illegal doesnt mean biblically wrong. As long as I know polygyny is/was prohibited in the US. And here we are, questioning and applying it (for some) despite the backlash of the society, state and church.
In Brazil there still is the crime of bigamy, but its only a matter of fraud against the state, meaning that you shouldn't marry two women simulteanously with a legal certificate. But you'll probably die before seeing anyone use this law nowadays. In practice you can marry 1000 women and no one will bother. Even the judges will recognize and give favorable decisions because its just another way of stablishing a family and etc. They only do that because they put polygyny in the same basket as other "modern" stuff like homossexual couples and etc.
But this legal age matter shouldn't be neglected. In Brazil the courts are prosecuting men who had a relationship with a woman below the legal age, even if she and her family goes to court to say that they approved of it. And usually they find out through some other mean like comparing the birth certificate of a child and the age of the mother or something like that. But you will end up in prison and be treated as a rapist the same way.
But something that I couldn't get a grasp of yet is the cultural difference between americans and brazilians. Its obvious that promiscuity in Brazil is banalized, its seen as something usual, just by comparing brazilian bikinis and american ones you'll notice a difference. But it seems to me, but Id really like the input of the americans here, that in the US people are more puritans? More reserved? Get scandalized more easily? I dont know how to define it. But americans seem to get shocked more easily in concern to sexuality or relationships, I dont know. But Id really like to hear the thoughts of people around the globe on this matter.
In Brazil there still is the crime of bigamy, but its only a matter of fraud against the state, meaning that you shouldn't marry two women simulteanously with a legal certificate. But you'll probably die before seeing anyone use this law nowadays. In practice you can marry 1000 women and no one will bother. Even the judges will recognize and give favorable decisions because its just another way of stablishing a family and etc. They only do that because they put polygyny in the same basket as other "modern" stuff like homossexual couples and etc.
But this legal age matter shouldn't be neglected. In Brazil the courts are prosecuting men who had a relationship with a woman below the legal age, even if she and her family goes to court to say that they approved of it. And usually they find out through some other mean like comparing the birth certificate of a child and the age of the mother or something like that. But you will end up in prison and be treated as a rapist the same way.
But something that I couldn't get a grasp of yet is the cultural difference between americans and brazilians. Its obvious that promiscuity in Brazil is banalized, its seen as something usual, just by comparing brazilian bikinis and american ones you'll notice a difference. But it seems to me, but Id really like the input of the americans here, that in the US people are more puritans? More reserved? Get scandalized more easily? I dont know how to define it. But americans seem to get shocked more easily in concern to sexuality or relationships, I dont know. But Id really like to hear the thoughts of people around the globe on this matter.
Ought vs is.
World should move towards what is ought as that describes what should be, rather than what it is. If you only support is, nothing will change.
Off course, directly breaking law is stupid till law is changed.
Btw, sexual maturity can be seen just by looking at person, so it's easier to know. If you think other people will disagree did specific person reach sexual maturity, it's too young.
Also, someone can be of legal age/age of consent/whatever and still belong into category don't sleep. Why? Delayed puberty, sex hormones issues. See, that why ought should be used.
EDIT: As general rule avoiding usage of bureaucratic criteria is very good. Don't allow rules written by consquence-avoidance-people (ie bureaucrats) to override your common sense.
If something is stupid, it's stupid even if written as law. Breaking law is special topic always btw.
Man_in_the_Middle
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This is a recipe for legal confusion. For example, Give me a sentence or paragraph that could be used to codify how to determine by looking at a person if they are sexually mature or not.
I can easily give you a definition of how old a person is.
You’re right I stand corrected. Each state does have different rules regarding consent, but the commonly used age for almost all legally recognized functions is 18.
Nobody on this forum should be listening to the utterly stupid recommendations or musings about using any other considerations. Consult the legal codes in your country.
You are assumed legal codes are moral ones.
Very big assumption, often wrong in practice.