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Support For Men Facing (or have faced) Divorce

rockfox

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We have several here who are currently facing to prospect of, or are going through, divorces. The church in general does a horrific job supporting men victimized by divorce. I ran across this resource for helping men cope with divorce which looks helpful. At least to me, never having gone through divorce; if you have and you agree/disagree that this is helpful, please chime in. Please do add anything else that personally helped you get through it (or resources you would suggest).

http://www.maryjorapini.com/single-post/The-Men-Left-Behind-After-a-Divorce

Women still initiate most divorces in the United States. The reasons are varied, and it doesn’t really matter why it happened in the mind of the man who is left. If there are kids, the silence can be deafening because the kids usually go with the mom. Feelings of anger and rejection can overpower men and lead to life-threatening behaviors. Many times, men do not have the support network to offer emotional support and encouragement like women do. This leaves them to vices such as alcohol, driving too fast, physical aggression, and violence. When men are upset, it takes their heart, respirations, and blood pressure longer to return to normal readings than it does for women. For most men, having their wife walk out on them is a sign of failure, and failure is unfortunately viewed as being weak. The only way a guy is taught to handle feeling weak is to get angry, which begins a cycle of anger.


When men feel alone or hurt, they are not socialized to go to other men to talk about their feelings. They are socialized to talk to women. This usually leads to them “hooking up” with another woman before they are prepared emotionally. Women view relationships with more intensity in the beginning than men. This usually means for the guy who isn’t emotionally available that, once again, he will fail and be rejected. Women are also judgmental of these men as the men often don’t get close enough or vulnerable enough to be understood. If she cannot understand, she has no recourse other than to judge the present behavior.


By the time these men make it into my office, they are broken. Many times they are sleep deprived, confused, hurt, and angry. Trying to convince him at that time to cease using the vices he has been socialized or mentored to use by friends, family, and the media is almost impossible. He needs a fix, but his emotional and physical health depends on him feeling the pain and grieving it before moving on. He won’t trust his ability to grieve until he has other options to help him manage it. Here are several options for men dealing with a loss of love that can be done alone or with the guidance of a counselor or third party:

  1. Begin writing down your thoughts. Writing it seems to be cathartic, whereas holding it in your head can make you more confused and angry. Get a journal and make it your mission to fill it daily or hourly.

  2. Each day, make sure you talk with someone you trust. This can be a simple text or email, but communicating with someone else is important. This will help give you balance and stability at a time you feel off-kilter and rocked.

  3. Pray. Pray every day. It doesn’t have to be an organized prayer, just talk to your god. Talking to a minister or mentor from the church can help you feel less alone.

  4. Go to the gym or walk outside each day. Movement releases endorphins, which helps improve your mood and lower your depression.

  5. Watch what you eat. When you eat more carbs you may become more tired, depressed and unmotivated. Your body reacts to your moods, so taking care of your body when you are down becomes more essential.

  6. If your family is concerned that you are acting depressed or moody, don’t get defensive. Make an appointment to see your doctor; it is not a sign of weakness to go on anti-anxiety medication or anti-depressants at this time. Many times, when we are depressed or anxious, those closest to us see it first.

  7. Allow yourself a specific amount of time to think about your ex each day. Shorten that time by minutes or hours each week. In the beginning it will be very difficult to distract yourself, so use exercise as a way to do that. When you find yourself thinking of your ex, do 50 pushups or sit ups. You will begin feeling more confident and in control.

  8. If you have children, continue your relationship with them. Children feel grief intensely and act on it quickly. They will be struggling, too, so try not to dump adult emotions on them. Never let your anger for your ex become stronger than the love you feel for your children.

  9. Night time is the worst time; for that first week or two, have someone you can talk to even in the middle of the night when it is really bad. Good friends and family will understand and want to help.

  10. If there ever was a time to adopt a dog, this may be the best. A dog needs a home and you need unconditional love.

Many men see a divorce or a break up is a sign of failure. That may or may not be true, but it takes two to fail. It wasn’t all your fault no matter what your ex may say. We all make mistakes; the important aspect is to learn from them. Investing yourself in a higher cause post break-up will help occupy your thoughts and surround you with like-minded people who know how to give back. Doing something physical helps most guys process anger without acting it out in a way that can be harmful. The biggest hurdle for guys dealing with any crisis is that they aren’t allowed by the “man code” to ask for help. This may sound ridiculous to women, but it is true. I am not sure who developed the man code, but this part of the code needs to change.
 
Time to adopt a dog? Really?

These are nice words but the reality is that when you are in the midst of the storm all you can do is hold on and come to realize it's going to take years to get out from under it, especially if children are involved.

Divorce in today's world is a business and it has to be approached as such to understand how it effects men and women. Lawyers, therapist, judges are there to make money not help people.

https://www.divorcecorp.com/

Side note: What's interesting to me is how this ruthless system is now being used against someone like Hunter Biden. Even people like him can't escape it.
 
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I get it. Someone who loves you. Someone who needs you. For some men it could be the thing which keeps them from taking their life.

Maybe for some men. But, even though a dog is a great companion they can not match the betrayal that comes with the process of divorce, been then again it's all relative to the amount of emotions a man puts into the relationship before it failed.

Not going through a divorce, especially with children is something no man can understand unless he has been there, especially in today's world of feminist ruled courts. And it's something no man would ever wish on another man.
 
I fit this description pretty closely. I had a good friend who came alongside and my family was very supportive. I did “journal “ a little bit sporadically. I hate that term and I hate having to admit that. I didn’t really start getting better until I met windblow but some things will never be completely whole.
 
Thank you for sharing guys.
 
I've divorced once and been divorced twice, so I have some horror stories that include losing my oldest son and having had numerous attempts made on my life. I probably won't write anything more online than I've already written about it, but I welcome having a group discussion at a retreat sometime.

The system is definitely stacked against men, and the irony is that that is so predates feminism. Men are who set up things to be the way they are. I regularly got the impression during a drawn-out court process that many male judges assume it could never happen to them and thus further assume that any man standing before them is a foul creature who deserves the pits of hell.
 
I'd be curious to discover how many have lost a wife, and were able to get her back, and what they did that enabled their marriage to be made whole. Having talked to a number of coworkers and other associates whose wives have abandoned them, I find many of them have no desire to reconcile as Paul talks about in I Cor 7, but I have come to wonder why those men who seem torn up about their wives leaving them, have no desire to pursue this. I am not among those who have lost a wife to divorce, but knowing that sticking my neck out on polygamy, I always knew that I faced that risk, I felt that if it ever came to that, I would want to reconcile if that were possible, without having to surreder what I know to be true. I know that is true for one of our own that we prayed with at the retreat, but at the same time, he would not want to have her back, at the expense of what her terms were, and I can't say that I would blame him. Many of the men I have talked to though, are not even remotely interested in polygyny, but still have no interest in having their wives back, and some of them have told me that their wives wanted to come back. Obviously, that complicates things in the situations where he has already remarried, especially if he does not wish to have a second wife, and it seems that any effort I make to show them what I Cor 7:10-11 says, is dismissed, even though they cannot really do so Biblically.
 
I'd be curious to discover how many have lost a wife, and were able to get her back, and what they did that enabled their marriage to be made whole. Having talked to a number of coworkers and other associates whose wives have abandoned them, I find many of them have no desire to reconcile as Paul talks about in I Cor 7, but I have come to wonder why those men who seem torn up about their wives leaving them, have no desire to pursue this. I am not among those who have lost a wife to divorce, but knowing that sticking my neck out on polygamy, I always knew that I faced that risk, I felt that if it ever came to that, I would want to reconcile if that were possible, without having to surreder what I know to be true. I know that is true for one of our own that we prayed with at the retreat, but at the same time, he would not want to have her back, at the expense of what her terms were, and I can't say that I would blame him. Many of the men I have talked to though, are not even remotely interested in polygyny, but still have no interest in having their wives back, and some of them have told me that their wives wanted to come back. Obviously, that complicates things in the situations where he has already remarried, especially if he does not wish to have a second wife, and it seems that any effort I make to show them what I Cor 7:10-11 says, is dismissed, even though they cannot really do so Biblically.
“And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I woman cannot spirituality divorce a man so this is talking about a woman that has put herself away. She would be going against the Lord if she is departing but if she does depart she is to remain single as she is still married.

Husbands are not supposed to put away their wives without also writing a bill of divorce and putting it in their hand so that they can be free to remarry.

If she is to have sex with another man after she has been cut off from your flesh it would be an abomination unto the Lord for you to take her back.
 
I'd be curious to discover how many have lost a wife, and were able to get her back, and what they did that enabled their marriage to be made whole. Having talked to a number of coworkers and other associates whose wives have abandoned them, I find many of them have no desire to reconcile as Paul talks about in I Cor 7, but I have come to wonder why those men who seem torn up about their wives leaving them, have no desire to pursue this. I am not among those who have lost a wife to divorce, but knowing that sticking my neck out on polygamy, I always knew that I faced that risk, I felt that if it ever came to that, I would want to reconcile if that were possible, without having to surreder what I know to be true. I know that is true for one of our own that we prayed with at the retreat, but at the same time, he would not want to have her back, at the expense of what her terms were, and I can't say that I would blame him. Many of the men I have talked to though, are not even remotely interested in polygyny, but still have no interest in having their wives back, and some of them have told me that their wives wanted to come back. Obviously, that complicates things in the situations where he has already remarried, especially if he does not wish to have a second wife, and it seems that any effort I make to show them what I Cor 7:10-11 says, is dismissed, even though they cannot really do so Biblically.
I think a lot of divorced men don’t want their ex-wife back is because they tried so hard to get her to stay. I personally got on my knees and begged my then wife not to leave me. She smirked with glee. I think most of us gave so many chances to come back that we’re convinced she won’t and so have moved on.
 
I lost my first wife to divorce a lifetime ago.
Although it was me that did the filing, it was she that made the decision that we could not live together. I, plain and simple, gave up.
Had I known then half of what I know today I could have rescued the situation.
She always was and is a good person, she just received really bad counsel from friends and a professional.
 
I have shifted the debate on what constitutes God-ordained marriage, and the mechanics of divorce, to its own thread. The original poster (@rockfox) intended this thread to be a helpful & encouraging resource for men going through the enormous difficulty of divorce. If you are looking for a more theological discussion, click here for the discussion that has just been moved out of this thread.

To clarify the purpose of this thread, I have also applied the "Support" label, and pinned it to the top of the forum as it could be valuable for many people if it becomes a repository of useful resources and encouragement.
 
God called me for another woman. This was 5 years ago. Since my wife and I ran through a lot of trouble, consulting and try and error activities. My wife will never accept another one. The other one is my twin soul. I asked God for help and what I can do with the situation. God is silent since telling me I should take care of the second. I do not have any contact with the second one anymore. I can not stand the situation for another 5 years. My wife sometimes talks with friends, "she first needs to get divorced from me" before meeting other guys (lots of people tell her, I am the idiot and the mad person and she needs to get rid of me - there are so many good guys out there, waiting for her - and yes, she has contact from time to time with some other men, nothing really serious, but still trying and checking the markets). We have two children and love the children most. Hope to find a solution. I will never actively push to get divorced, but the situation is not getting better with my wife and me. We try to live together like a normal couple, but there was a lot of trouble that seems not to be capable of healing.
 
@Reinold, I am very sorry to hear this. Things have obviously become a lot more difficult for you over the past few months.

Why does your wife want to leave? Fundamentally? The obvious answer is "polygamy", but you haven't had any contact from your potential second wife for a very long time, so there's a good chance that will never actually happen, and even if it does it's not happening now so it's not a real problem today. That's not the fundamental problem, it is a detail. The problem is different. The true problem will be emotional.

So what is your wife feeling? How does she perceive you?

When you shared your situation last year, you stated "we are preparing a proper situation for all of us in the name of God and with the help of God and asking Him constantly for advice and what`s to do next, learning patience, growing our hobby farm, moving forward to hopefully buying the neighbours land and home in the near future." I find it interesting that you are actively working on preparing a situation for all of you, even though Katharina has had no contact with you for a very long time.

Does your wife Jadwiga feel that everything you are doing is for Katharina, a woman who is not even in your life at present? Does she feel all your thoughts and energy are being directed towards something that, unless God does a miracle, seems like a fiction and a distraction from actually focussing on the wife and children you already have? Does she feel neglected emotionally in favour of someone who is not even present?

Does she feel that you have emotionally abandoned her, even though you have not physically abandoned her and have no intention of doing so?

Is your priority healing your marriage with Jadwiga, or finding Katharina? What does Jadwiga feel that your priority is (this may be different)?

I am just asking these questions for you to ponder. You can share the answers with us if you think this line of discussion may be useful.

The point is to better understand how Jadwiga is thinking, to understand what steps you may be able to take to heal your marriage with her.
 
We try to live together like a normal couple, but there was a lot of trouble that seems not to be capable of healing.
I recommend trying to live like an abnormal couple, who are so in love with each other, it grosses everybody else out. Your wife will find that very alluring.
 
I haven't read all the replies yet. But what if the husband is the one that caused the wife to consider divorce, by how he treats her so on and so forth and she's given him chance after chance after chance and Now does not love him and it has woken him up and he's doing everything in his power to save the marriage but she has lost all love for him.

I ask this because this is exactly what is going on in our daughter's life right now and we are going to Texas this afternoon to talk to both of them.
 
I haven't read all the replies yet. But what if the husband is the one that caused the wife to consider divorce, by how he treats her so on and so forth and she's given him chance after chance after chance and Now does not love him and it has woken him up and he's doing everything in his power to save the marriage but she has lost all love for him.

I ask this because this is exactly what is going on in our daughter's life right now and we are going to Texas this afternoon to talk to both of them.
Sorry to hear this. I’ll be praying for you all. Glad to see you guys trying to handle it patriarchally.

Let me know if you’re coming thru this way. Would love to see you guys again
 
Yeah, what part of Texas? Obviously, if he is doing everything in his power right now to save the marriage, it would be most honoring to God, to give him another chance, but we all know how women are often ruled by their own feelings. What I know about women, is that it is better for them to take the correct action, regardless of their feelings, and their feelings will eventually follow their obedience to God. I have four sisters. One of them had two choices of men to marry. I advised her to marry the one she didn't feel chemistry for, because from what she described, he had solid character. She did, and the chemistry between them blossomed.
 
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