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[sharonr]

Perhaps justly so, although I refuse to fault him for having carefully saved for a boat over many years, and being reluctant to just turn the proceeds over to his wife who had ALSO been earning, presumably pretty well, but had chosen not to save.

The boat issue, she is just trying to be controlling, and stop him from his visions, what if my husband wanted a boat, i should stay behind him, and support his vision not go against it. I'm still learning to support his every vision and every goal.
And why did the man turn to porongraphy, another women using sex to manipulate and bring him farther away from her. If that man is not strong enough or grounded in his faith he can easily turn to another women to help his grief.

 

[CecilW]

You dont reward good for bad behavoir. She needed somebody to put her in her place.

"Therefore I am now going to allure her; I will lead her into the desert and speak tenderly to her." Hosea 2:14

This is God's technique for dealing with a harlot wife.

The object is NOT to confirm her in her rebellion or power grab. The object is NOT for the man to turn passive and say "que sera, sera," while the wife runs rampant. The point isn't even to go on with this forever if the object of the reconciliation attempt chooses to see this technique as weakness.

(And yes, that last happens. I know a step-dad who tried loving, polite forbearance and instruction towards an angry, abusive adult stepdaughter. She was literally SPITTING on him whenever she got mad, and calling him horrid names constantly. She saw his attempt to be Christlike as weakness and became emboldened in her abuse, rather than repentant. The relationship eventually HAD to end.)

Rather, the idea is to make a very PROACTIVE attempt to restore and improve a badly damaged relationship. If it works, everything changes for the better and it becomes possible to realistically work on the other "Godly order in the home" issues. If it doesn't work, you walk away, knowing through your tears that you DID do you best!

 

[CecilW]

The boat issue, she is just trying to be controlling, and stop him from his visions, what if my husband wanted a boat, i should stay behind him, and support his vision not go against it. I'm still learning to support his every vision and every goal.
And why did the man turn to porongraphy, another women using sex to manipulate and bring him farther away from her. If that man is not strong enough or grounded in his faith he can easily turn to another women to help his grief.

I absolutely agree. This is their state at the BEGINNING of the movie. They are definitely FUBAR. NEITHER is living right.

The story line is of one of those two humanoid messes deciding to make a last ditch attempt to turn the failed relationship around by making drastic changes in their own way of relating to the other, changes toward a technique that strongly resembles how God pursued and pursues us in our own lost idolatrous rebellious state.

At the start of it, the man doesn't even fully understand what he is doing. He isn't consciously applying Christ's technique. He's just honoring a request from his own father out of filial respect. The technique IS Christlike nonetheless, and leads him eventually to the foot of the Cross. Both of them, actually. Makes sense.

 

[CecilW]

Hmmm ... :roll:

Having said all of the above, I guess I can see how someone (spiritual or not) might watch the movie and miss the INTENDED message, thinking instead that it is about the man being responsible to abjectly pursue the woman, giving up everything of himself, including long held and planned for dreams, to woo and win her amazing, all powerful self and affections.

I suspect that it would be a doubly easy mistake to make if someone were in a messed up state themselves at the time of watching. A woman, for instance, may conclude that the message of the movie is that this sort of treatment is her due, and she has a right to behave badly unless / until she gets it.

*sigh*

 

[sharonr]

And yes, that last happens. I know a step-dad who tried loving, polite forbearance and instruction towards an angry, abusive adult stepdaughter. She was literally SPITTING on him whenever she got mad, and calling him horrid names constantly. She saw his attempt to be Christlike as weakness and became emboldened in her abuse, rather than repentant. The relationship eventually HAD to end.)

Rather, the idea is to make a very PROACTIVE attempt to restore and improve a badly damaged relationship. If it works, everything changes for the better and it becomes possible to realistically work on the other "Godly order in the home" issues. If it doesn't work, you walk away, knowing through your tears that you DID do you best!

Well I agree with your last input how people may misinterpret the whole message. Thank God my husband interpeted this movie for me! Messed up message for people who dont know how to interpret. His loving actions toward her seem to only make matters worse, because she is thinking she did the right thing. She is being pacified. God's love is firm, everybody seems to think of God's love as pitty pat on the back. He is a God that stands for righteouness. Look at Ahab and all the men who backed down from a contentious women. Women are very clever and manipulative. But all is said, much love