Meat Becoming one

[frederick]

This person further explained that men are not capable of being one with more then women at a time. I would like to know what yall think??

Men are obviously capable of being one with more than one woman at a time because there are many examples of godly men having more than one wife in the Bible. E.g. 2 Chronicles 24:2-3 Joash did what was right in the sight of the Lord all the days of Jehoiada the priest. And Jehoiada took two wives for him, and he had sons and daughters.

That person who is speaking with you doesn't know the Bible particularly well.

 

[cubanito]

If you are in Christ (our husband in one layer), you are one even if there are millions, it's more of a unity thing.
Don't have to be physically stitched together.

 

[Hisdaughter]

Men are obviously capable of being one with more than one woman at a time because there are many examples of godly men having more than one wife in the Bible. E.g. 2 Chronicles 24:2-3 Joash did what was right in the sight of the Lord all the days of Jehoiada the priest. And Jehoiada took two wives for him, and he had sons and daughters.

That person who is speaking with you doesn't know the Bible particularly well.

So you feel that becoming one is the act of the marriage itself??

 

[frederick]

So you feel that becoming one is the act of the marriage itself??

1 Cor. 6:16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”
Becoming one flesh doesn't require marriage but those married will (hopefully) become one flesh.

 

[Mark C]

This person further explained that men are not capable of being one with more then [one?] women at a time. I would like to know what yall think??

I'm never surprised when the ignorant make unsupportable sweeping generalizations that presume godlike expertise while demonstrating only hubris.

 

[FollowingHim]

Becoming one? In a marriage there is a bond that starts to form and hopefully before the marriage is even official. That bond prayerfully will grow as time goes by. Some call it a bond. Other call it love. It's that mind melding thing that doesn't really have an explanation. He knows her and she knows him. It's an intimacy that goes beyond sex and is almost spiritual. It is when the husband loves his wife and wants to protect her and provide for her. It's when the wife respects her husband's and wants to please him and take care of him. It's when she knows to her very core that she belongs to him.

So if I am understanding you correctly, what you are concerned about is more of an emotional question @Hisdaughter:
- Is it possible to achieve the level of psychological connection and oneness that we all feel is desirable in marriage, with more than one woman?
- Is a man's mind actually capable of doing this?

My intellectual answer is "yes", knowing how a man's mind works. However, I have not actually done it myself yet. I am sure more experienced men can confirm that answer.

 

[paterfamilias]

Zero doubt and it is not something that requires effort as it is as natural as breathing.
Believing otherwise is the result of cultural programming that runs counter to the natural model.

 

[raulus]

I'm fresh to these ideas, but I do think that I can offer a good take that I haven't seen anyone else use.

Someone already has used this verse but not in entirety, I actually believe they missed a crucial part in that, that answers your question in a roundabout way.

“Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be ONE FLESH. But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE SPIRIT.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6‬:‭3‬, ‭16‬-‭17‬

God's one spirit nature with His Bride is shown in juxtaposition to our one flesh nature with our wife/ves. How is it that He can be one spirit with a church comprised of millions of people? And the church is definitely a plural bride, or else Jesus wouldn't have use the 10 virgins parable to describe the church. The answer to that question is probably the same answer to your question.

 

[Mark C]

So if I am understanding you correctly, what you are concerned about is more of an emotional question @Hisdaughter:
- Is it possible to achieve the level of psychological connection and oneness that we all feel is desirable in marriage, with more than one woman?
....my intellectual answer is 'yes'...I am sure more experienced men can confirm that answer.

Absolutely. Positively. Without question. From personal experience and testimony.

(Which is why I was no doubt a bit flippant above. Admittedly, it always bugs me when some guy tries to say something is impossible that I've done every day...)

 

[Leslie Pease]

God's one spirit nature with His Bride is shown in juxtaposition to our one flesh nature with our wife/ves. How is it that He can be one spirit with a church comprised of millions of people? And the church is definitely a plural bride, or else Jesus wouldn't have use the 10 virgins parable to describe the church. The answer to that question is probably the same answer to your question.

If I could, I would say that you can back that statement up with Ephesians 5:22-33, specifically pointing out how the nature of the assembly's relationship with Christ mirrors the woman's relationship to her husband and vice versa. Can we all have an intimate connection with Christ even though He has many followers?...of course. The connection will be different between Him and each person, and it might look very different from person to person but if we are His...we will have a connection with Him.
To elaborate though, I believe that connection takes time, experiences, and sacrifices to build and grow just like a marriage relationship between a husband and wife. With proper conduct in place, I believe either of those relationships will become deeper and sweeter as they go on.

 

[Leslie Pease]

(Which is why I was no doubt a bit flippant above. Admittedly, it always bugs me when some guy tries to say something is impossible that I've done every day...)

Just curious, do you have more than 1 wife?

 

[Mark C]

Just curious, do you have more than 1 wife?

Yes.

 

[MeganC]

To elaborate though, I believe that connection takes time, experiences, and sacrifices to build and grow just like a marriage relationship between a husband and wife. With proper conduct in place, I believe either of those relationships will become deeper and sweeter as they go on.

I totally agree!

I've long said that the marriage only starts with a wedding. Marriage itself is a process that takes place over time and it isn't just something that magically happens in a ceremony.

Case in point is plenty of great marriages never had the ceremony at all.

 

[Joleneakamama]

I totally agree too @Leslie Pease

I've long said that the marriage only starts with a wedding. Marriage itself is a process that takes place over time and it isn't just something that magically happens in a ceremony.

I have said much the same thing. It causes me to look at what the world calls "failed marriages" as more like "Attemped marriages." Without becoming the kind of one and commited that you just can't imagine being apart before death makes it non optional..... you have not yet succeeded at this thing called marriage.

Case in point is plenty of great marriages never had the ceremony at all.

Very true too. We knew a very devoted couple. He called her his "Shacking up partner" for over 20 years, makin' fun of the way some saw their relationship. She was there with him to the last breath of his life.....and they were as married as two people could be practically, morally, or emotionally speaking. Legally? Who gives a care?!
Let the dead (state) bury their dead (citizens) in red tape and endless bull$#!t. That is all the idol state is good for anyway.....showing the heartache, bondage, and DEATH that goes with leaving (as a nation) the living God.

 

[Leslie Pease]

Yes.

Well good for you! I hope they are all blessings

 

[cnystrom]

I can definitely agree on that. I just don't see a "spiritual union" except with Christ.

Which is exactly what a marriage is supposed to reflect. Correct?

 

[rockfox]

Recently I was informed that only one man and one woman could "become one" because Genesis 2:24 says the husband shall leave his mother and father and cleave unto his wife and become one flesh.

Those who argue like this, another example being 'God created Adam and Eve not Adam, Eve and Jill', are utilizing rhetoric. They are drawing inferences from unclear passages that could have many interpretations in an attempt to contradict the totality of scripture. It may sound good but that doesn't make it right.

Both God and Jesus depict themselves as polygamists; there is no way one can square that with the idea polygamy is sinful. To do so is to undermine the very basis of our faith (i.e. Christ the perfect sacrifice for our sins).

 

[NickF]

Which is exactly what a marriage is supposed to reflect. Correct?

Expound on your question, seems ambiguous enough I don't really know what you mean.

 

[Maddog]

I dont believe there is a "spiritual union" between a man and his woman. Emotional, yes and it is beautiful. I don't find a spiritual union represented in the flesh described in scripture. Please inform me. Additionally, Can a man with ten wives be "spiritually united" with all ten of his women or is that just a wonderful romantic notion?

 

[FollowingHim]

To answer that @Maddog you'd have to define "spiritual". And the word "spirit" is so closely aligned with the word "emotion" (as in "a spirit of fear ran through the crowd") that you might be splitting hairs. If you can see an emotional union, you may be looking at a spiritual union but just not like that terminology.