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Another reason God allowed polygyny...

rockfox said:
That right there is the huge challenge. We have no cultural grounding or training for allegiance to tribe over self.
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Which is why I say two generations with marital ties to cement the cultural shift. It can function in a shorter timeframe, but either extreme external pressure (the crucible of tribulation) will bind the participants or a very high level of commitment on the part of all... methinks the former is the only real route apart from time.
 
Phillip said:
Of the 12 Patriarchs, Joseph ranks #1, but Issachar is a very close second. He had many wives and and ton of descendants. He worked hard, played hard and fought harder. He was not in the lineage of the priests or the kings, but if the king wanted to go to war, they first had to go thru Issachar. His clan was the largest, the most powerful and the king needed Issachar’s family on board to win. Great example of what @PeteR is talking about.
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Very interesting summary on Issachar! I've heard bits and pieces here and there, but never tied together so concisely as you did here. Thanks!
 
So when are we going to make moves? I've spent a lot of time talking/writing/ thinking about it as I'm sure many others have, but when are we going to go from hearing & seeing to doing. It is going to be easier to make things happen now, before things get worse. How much time we think we really have? Do we have any examples out there that started from where we are?

One of my favorite songs come to mind.

 
ContraMundum said:
So when are we going to make moves? I've spent a lot of time talking/writing/ thinking about it as I'm sure many others have, but when are we going to go from hearing & seeing to doing. It is going to be easier to make things happen now, before things get worse. How much time we think we really have? Do we have any examples out there that started from where we are?

One of my favorite songs come to mind.

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WOW! What a message! Several key thoughts "This is not a gentleman's discussion" "How do good men become a part of the system--they refuse to resist"
"Everything Hitler did was 'legal'" too many to remember and quote! Worth several more listens!!
 
ContraMundum said:
So when are we going to make moves? I've spent a lot of time talking/writing/ thinking about it as I'm sure many others have, but when are we going to go from hearing & seeing to doing. It is going to be easier to make things happen now, before things get worse. How much time we think we really have? Do we have any examples out there that started from where we are?

One of my favorite songs come to mind.

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I think we are doing something. .. We are growing in knowledge and understanding, faith and courage. We are becoming examples that can lead from the front and we are finding our voice in various arenas. Clearly, Abba has been working in many of us independent of each other, so He must be in control and is never late..

That being said, I am not sure how He works from here, but I doubt it us all of us moving together to become an island... I'm thinking He more likely will build around us to create lights...

On a personal level, we each should be laser focused on seeking Him, learning to hear His voice, setting our house in order, getting in shape... financially, physically, spiritually... etc.

He is building an army, and He has a plan...

And, we have PM...
 
Just before signing the Declaration of Independence Ben Franklin said “We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."

Applicable much?

@PeteR is right. We need to get our houses in order, study to show ourselves approved, physically and financially prepare, and be ready to take advantage of every opportunity to advance the cause of the biblical family, and stand together in this.
 
PeteR said:
I think we are doing something. .. We are growing in knowledge and understanding, faith and courage. We are becoming examples that can lead from the front and we are finding our voice in various arenas. Clearly, Abba has been working in many of us independent of each other, so He must be in control and is never late..

That being said, I am not sure how He works from here, but I doubt it us all of us moving together to become an island... I'm thinking He more likely will build around us to create lights...

On a personal level, we each should be laser focused on seeking Him, learning to hear His voice, setting our house in order, getting in shape... financially, physically, spiritually... etc.

He is building an army, and He has a plan...

And, we have PM...
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What he said!
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
@PeteR is right. We need to get our houses in order, study to show ourselves approved, physically and financially prepare, and be ready to take advantage of every opportunity to advance the cause of the biblical family, and stand together in this.
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This.
Just keep building the foundations so that YHWH can build His Kingdom upon it.
Personally, I believe that this all will be happening in the Millennium. But the Millennium isn’t all that far off. Keep re-digging the old wells and laying foundations. YHWH will build, but only if He has something to build upon.
 
Loved the tune above, 'Resistance.'

Here's a decidedly less intellectual song of resistance from a secular, even Anonymous, perspective. While I may not entirely agree with the message, it always gets me jacked up concerning the state of the world and standing against evil...

 
PeteR said:
Loved the tune above, 'Resistance.'

Here's a decidedly less intellectual song of resistance from a secular, even Anonymous, perspective. While I may not entirely agree with the message, it always gets me jacked up concerning the state of the world and standing against evil...

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I like it.

Interesting band with interesting videos. Never heard of them before.
 
Cap said:
I like it.

Interesting band with interesting videos. Never heard of them before.
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Haven't heard much else from them... that was a go-to tune back in my prepper days...
 
PeteR said:
Loved the tune above, 'Resistance.'

Here's a decidedly less intellectual song of resistance from a secular, even Anonymous, perspective. While I may not entirely agree with the message, it always gets me jacked up concerning the state of the world and standing against evil...

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Ok, why was I expecting a spiky haired guy to start crying, muttering to some guy named Stu?
 
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