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1 Timothy 4 "some shall depart from the faith" "Forbidding to marry" Blasphemy!

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The problem all along has been that you ASSUME too %$$@! much, and ignore anything that contradicts it.
Okay so my assumption was wrong? you do stone people to death for working on the sabbath? If your consistent and do still stone people for that... well you're wrong, but at least your consistent and not cherry picking
 
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Let’s face it, people.
When someone just keeps repeating the same nonsense over and over in spite of proof to the contrary, they are a troll.
We don’t , except for one huge blind spot, believe in censorship here. We give them all the rope that they need to hang themselves.

This guy has adequately shown us who he is.
Don’t feed the trolls.
 
TRM,

I ask you to take another look at the conduct displayed in this new members first interactions with everyone here. ARE YOU SURE, this is the kind of friends we need? I understand healthy debate but this has not been healthy since the get go!
Things are being handled behind the scenes, give it a few days.
 
To illustrate the danger of making new doctrine out of New Testament passages...
When someone just keeps repeating the same nonsense over and over in spite of proof to the contrary, they are a troll.
We don’t , except for one huge blind spot, believe in censorship here...
...This guy has adequately shown us who he is.
Don’t feed the trolls.

Maybe they'll make him a Moderator...


Addendum: Because it's very clearly the SAME Blind Spot.

Which seems to explain the 'latitude.' Some of us would have already been censored just for an honest answer, ignored as it would have been anyway.
 
You were just saying how i was going to be banned/exiled for posting "too much" scripture.
For being totally anti-social, not scripture.

In this same thread it has been said how it would be reasonable for me to be beat for sharing the truth.
Didn't notice this since most of text isn't valuable and this such things hard to notice.

If i do get beat or banned for sharing the truth, what do you call that friend?
Won't be for sharing truth. It's for your communication. I have several times fought whole forum and never had same issue.
 
Let’s face it, people.
When someone just keeps repeating the same nonsense over and over in spite of proof to the contrary, they are a troll.
We don’t , except for one huge blind spot, believe in censorship here. We give them all the rope that they need to hang themselves.

This guy has adequately shown us who he is.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Do you know what reviling is steve? I forgive you, but you should repent. Its a genuine question since you dont know what adultery is.
Reviling is verbal abuse, like calling believers names.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

They were reviling Elisha here.
2 Kings 2
23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!”
24 So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the Lord. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
For being totally anti-social, not scripture.


Didn't notice this since most of text isn't valuable and this such things hard to notice.


Won't be for sharing truth. It's for your communication. I have several times fought whole forum and never had same issue.
As Yahushua was causing outrage and being driven from territories by angry people who hated him. Do you think they were mad at him for the truth or for his communication?

Luke 4
28 So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff.

Matthew 8
34 And behold, the whole city came out to meet Yahushua. And when they saw Him, they begged Him to depart from their region.

Luke 8
37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned.

Mark 5
17 Then they began to plead with Him to depart from their region.

John 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Yahushua answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

John 11
53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.
55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.
56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”
57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

^ They wanted him dead so He would stop causing outrage with the truth, which they didn't believe. They called Him "demon-possesed"

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
Nice. It’s been a while since you got in a good hit. You should frame this one. Put it on the refrigerator door or some place special.
John 15
20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Yahushua went around causing outrage and being kicked out of everywhere. It is Adultery to remarry after divorce, It is Adultery to marry a divorced woman.

Luke 4
28 So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff.

Luke 8
37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned

John 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Yahushua answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

John 11
53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.
55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.
56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”
57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
Things are being handled behind the scenes, give it a few days.
John 15
20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Yahushua went around causing outrage and being kicked out of everywhere. It is Adultery to remarry after divorce, It is Adultery to marry a divorced woman.

Luke 4
28 So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff.

Luke 8
37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned

John 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Yahushua answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

John 11
53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.
55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.
56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”
57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
Maybe they'll make him a Moderator...


Addendum: Because it's very clearly the SAME Blind Spot.

Which seems to explain the 'latitude.' Some of us would have already been censored just for an honest answer, ignored as it would have been anyway.
John 15
20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Yahushua went around causing outrage and being kicked out of everywhere. It is Adultery to remarry after divorce, It is Adultery to marry a divorced woman.

Luke 4
28 So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff.

Luke 8
37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned

John 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Yahushua answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

John 11
53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.
55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.
56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”
57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
John 15
20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Yahushua went around causing outrage and being kicked out of everywhere. It is Adultery to remarry after divorce, It is Adultery to marry a divorced woman.

Luke 4
28 So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff.

Luke 8
37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned

John 10
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
32 Yahushua answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

John 11
53 So from that day on they plotted to take his life.
54 Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples.
55 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, many went up from the country to Jerusalem for their ceremonial cleansing before the Passover.
56 They kept looking for Jesus, and as they stood in the temple courts they asked one another, “What do you think? Isn’t he coming to the festival at all?”
57 But the chief priests and the Pharisees had given orders that anyone who found out where Jesus was should report it so that they might arrest him.

Matthew 5
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
Okay now you’re just being boring. It seems you want to get banned so you can feed your martyr complex. I’m torn. On one hand I want to oblige you, on the other hand I hate feeding your delusion.
 
Okay now you’re just being boring. It seems you want to get banned so you can feed your martyr complex. I’m torn. On one hand I want to oblige you, on the other hand I hate feeding your delusion.
Don't worry about me brother, worry about yourself.

Matthew 5
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
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21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,
24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison.
26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.
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27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
31 “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’
32 But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.

John 5
45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust.
46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.
 
@Mr.M Anyone receptive to your message is more likely to read it when you don't repeat it.

Most people here LIKE to discuss and reason about scripture, and are here because they have an uncommon willingness to pursue truth.
This is not your site and exists as a ministry with a primary focus on marriage. This means no one is here because they want to hear you preach or read pages of you repeating excessively the same few verses from a single flawed translation.

This doesn't mean we don't care about truth and seek it.

Most of us are busy and our time here is limited. You will be more likely to be read/heard if you actually WRITE SOMETHING NEW... and even better RESPOND to what others say LIKE YOU HEARD THEM.....EVEN IF YOU DONT AGREE.

I have family that are stubborn and at times think they are right when they aren't. Since most accept their knowledge is imperfect....we agree to disagree and keep fellowshipping.....or interacting with written words.

Okay now you’re just being boring.
Proof. Two more long copied and pasted posts in the time I was actually writing a post.
 
@Mr.M Anyone receptive to your message is more likely to read it when you don't repeat it.

Most people here LIKE to discuss and reason about scripture, and are here because they have an uncommon willingness to pursue truth.
This is not your site and exists as a ministry with a primary focus on marriage. This means no one is here because they want to hear you preach or read pages of you repeating excessively the same few verses from a single flawed translation.

This doesn't mean we don't care about truth and seek it.

Most of us are busy and our time here is limited. You will be more likely to be read/heard if you actually WRITE SOMETHING NEW... and even better RESPOND to what others say LIKE YOU HEARD THEM.....EVEN IF YOU DONT AGREE.

I have family that are stubborn and at times think they are right when they aren't. Since most accept their knowledge is imperfect....we agree to disagree and keep fellowshipping.....or interacting with written words.


Proof. Two more long copied and pasted posts in the time I was actually writing a post.
fine, but for context we are almost on page 10 of MY POST, where someone else started a tangent about adultery.... I didnt start the post about this.
 
We must exhort those who forbid marriage to return to the faith and repent for following "spirits of error, and doctrines of devils".
I agree with you, the problem is that you don’t agree with yourself.
 
Give it up. All of us have done our own independent research and have come to a conclusion different from yours. None of us just came up with it out of thin air. I know for me it was thoroughly researched. I didn’t just look at some guy’s preferred translation of words.

You’re convincing no one. All you do is repeat yourself without hearing anyone but yourself.

This thread needs to be locked.
 
Give it up. All of us have done our own independent research and have come to a conclusion different from yours. None of us just came up with it out of thin air. I know for me it was thoroughly researched. I didn’t just look at some guy’s preferred translation of words.

You’re convincing no one. All you do is repeat yourself without hearing anyone but yourself.

This thread needs to be locked.
I said Yahuah sent you a strong delusion because you don't love the truth and take pleasure in unrighteousness. (other men's wives, aka adultery)
I never said "out of thin air"

2 Thessalonians 2
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
Wow. Because i say its adultery to marry another mans wife... im forbidding marriage and following a doctrine of devils? Really steve?
Yes, really. That is the point of the verse. It almost sounded for a second like you read the post. But, sigh, no.

Yahushua went around causing outrage and being kicked out of everywhere. It is Adultery to remarry after divorce, It is Adultery to marry a divorced woman.
He Wrote His own Word, and then TAUGHT it, as Written.

You won't even READ that!

Which makes your comparing youself with Him more than a bit...disgusting.

Even your original post on this thread turns out to be a lie:
The BLASPHEMY of those who leave the faith by forbidding marriage.

1 Timothy 4
1 Now the Spirit speaketh evidently, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, and shall give heed unto spirits of error, and doctrines of devils,
2 Which speak lies through hypocrisy, and have their consciences burned with an hot iron,
3 Forbidding to marry...
So far, you're batting 1.000

The Spirit clearly says people who forbid marriage are leaving the faith by following "spirits of error, and doctrines of devils".
Turns out you didn't even comprehend the first thing you quoted. It's all you've done ever since.
 
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