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I had a dream last night...

Mark C

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I have never done this before (posted something specifically from a dream that I had), but felt that I was led today to do so. I pray that it will be a blessing for those who read.

[Note: I wasn't initially sure what to do with this one, either - since it wasn't obvious to which forum I should post such a topic. I see it myself as a "marriage issue", since it relates to me personally in specifically that way, but I can understand how this dream might seem a bit more "broad" than that. I considered putting it in an older thread in "Prayer Requests", since that is where I have written earlier of my own situation with exactly that purpose. I will put an update in there, with a pointer here as well.]

I started several years ago to keep a journal by my side at night of one kind or another, so that if I woke up and wanted to make notes, or was so directed (as I always pray now for a while each day before getting out of bed)I could do so. Sometimes these are a bit hard to read, but in many cases I still find that I like to keep the initial vision or wording intact, even if I later add more information. I will do some of that here, even though I can't readily insert the drawing.

First, a bit more context:

As many here are aware, my beloved wife B departed our house some months ago, in direct violation of I Corinthians 7. We discussed this, and other Biblical issue, of course, at some length over a period of time, primarily via email. (Again, there is more detail elsewhere, but this much is important to understand the context.) A mutual friend, whom I shall call "C", has long known of our family situation, and appeared to be supportive and a Bible-believer. She also, like B, has a history of past abuse (although I am not familiar with most of that in her case) about which we have long prayed.

In October, to my shock, I was arrested and charged with FELONY "domestic abuse" based upon those emails. I have had no contact with my Covenant wife (other than the abomination of an appearance before a tribunal here, who declared that "the intensity with which you hold these beliefs" constituted "abuse" sufficient to rule that I never communicate with her again). I have come to believe (from "testimony" and related claims) that C has betrayed our friendship and trust. I know well, and have prayed repeatedly, about forgiveness for her - and that it be "complete" and from my heart. I will only suggest to all here that it is one thing to do so intellectually, and another to do so "from your heart".

The dream was as follows: [My notes will be mostly as-written. Additional comments I will put in italics.]


I was at some sort of a public facility - call it an "amusement part", although I don't think that's really what it was. B and C were going to take a ride on some things that are best described as sort of an unpowered autogyro. Think of a children's helicopter toy, where you pull a string to spin up the main rotor, and it flies up until the blades slow down.

They were wind-driven, with large fans spread around stations in the part, which directed them by blasts of air. Each had a large set of blades on top, with a free-spinning blade, and a flat rudder instead of a tail rotor at the back.

I watched, as they went from one blast of air to another --
the main rotor would be SPUN up be each successive blast of air, raising each separate gyro with B and C inside, and directing it, more or less controlled, to the next station, where the process would repeat. As the rotor spun up in response to the external blast of air, the gyro would rise (sometimes even after hitting the ground when the main rotor slowed; it one case I watched it glance off a large wall). The wind in the park seemed to more them about randomly as well. I recall wondering about the design - and how much wind the system could handle before the ride became dangerous. Sometimes they moved about erratically.

When the craft were not moving forward, there was no air motion to keep the tail from rotating with the main blades. Often the tail rudder was spun in a complete circle before forward motion again stabilized it. The whole gyro would spin 360 degrees (completely around) as the blades were being spun back up sufficiently.

I noticed that C's gyro seemed to have a "sticky" rotor bearing or something. (I remember being interested and concerned about why it often seemed to spin MANY times before stabilizing, and thinking this was probably the reason.) I finally became concerned (thinking the occupant would get sick) and thought I heard screams coming from one or both gyros -- "Help! Get me OUT! Stop this thing!" -- and so forth.

At about station number 16 (?) I ran down the path to catch up to the two copters, and to catch them in my hand. (Yes, this incongruity didn't bother me at the time.) The ring around the main rotor protected my hand; I let them spin down as I held them both. They seemed smaller now -- I could hold them both in my hand.

I asked the question, "Do you want to get out now?" C answered "Yes", she wanted out. I didn't hear B's answer at first over C's yelling. I do not think she had yet answered, or decided...then I woke up.


A bit of my own interpretation -- although some of the words that came to mind as I wrote it down seem self-obvious:

"wind-driven" "passive" "ride" "spun up"

Sticky bearing - spins rider in circles. Hits walls, often descends into the ground, sometimes bouncing hard, before the next blast of air drives it back up.

"Do you want the ride to stop?"
"Do you want to get out?"
"Do you want me to help you get out of it?"

I caught them both in my hands first (hearing the screaming!) so that I could ask the above.


In the morning, I prayed about this -- and specifically forgave and prayed for Crystal, too. (I ALWAYS pray for B, of course.)

My wife L and I then prayed (and forgave) as well. L reminded me to write about this dream after I woke up. Some time later still, it occurred to me that I should post it here. I would of course appreciate not only your prayers for all of my house, but your comments as well, if you are so led.

Love in our Savior,

Mark
 
Let her go. The her that you know inside of you, give to God and move on. Relationships have no landing strips sometimes.
 
Mark,

I prayed and this is what I got... I believe that the public place or ‘amusement park’ represents the world where they are now operating. Just like an amusement park, people often think that they will be happier in the world than in the safety of living for God. However, when they actually see what it is like once they are on the ‘rides’, it is not always all that it’s cracked up to be.

The wind from the fans obviously represents the Spirit of God and wind that God uses to blow the rebellious women to and fro like the ‘chaff’ that they are right now. He still loves them, but they are in rebellion, so they will suffer accordingly in order to hopefully let them come to the end of themselves. Even though C is trying to ‘help’ B, she is actually more impeded than B is, (i.e., the malfunction of her vehicle). She will eventually become tired of this ‘ride’, as she will become frustrated with trying to ‘save’ this woman from you, when she cannot even ‘save’ herself. The fact that they were unpowered shows that there is no power to walking in the flesh, which the vehicles represent. The erratic motion represents the lack of direction in their lives right now. Each station will be a place that God will take them to in order to bring about repentance. Hitting the wall represents the ‘bumps’ that they will experience along the way. The fact that the vehicles that they were riding did not appear familiar to you is to show you that you will not be able to know exactly, (or completely understand) the type of ‘ride’ that they are taking, but it is God’s unique design to accomplish what His will is for the two of them.

There will be a number of ‘stations’ that God will take these women to before they will be ready for your help. The fact that you could hold them in your hand without being harmed by the vehicles is symbolic of the power of God in your hand that can stop the motion of this ‘ride’, when He allows. I believe that this means that you should continue to wait for God to finish His work and that you ONLY pray His will be done, so that your prayers do not interfere with the process, until they get to station 16. Sixteen represents 2x8 or double new beginnings. At this station, they each will be given the same opportunity to repent and with your help, come out of the world. C will be ready, but B may not. If not, then you will have to continue to be patient as you cannot overcome her free will. Let her continue to ‘ride’ alone until she is finished with her rebellion as well. The fact that you woke up before the ‘dream was over’ may mean that there will be an interruption in the process with regards B. Wait for God to reveal more.

Scriptures - Prov. 11:29, 27:15-16, Isaiah 7:2, 64:6, Jer. 13:20-27, 51:1-5 and John 3:8

Hope this helps.

Be blessed,

Ray
 
Thanks, Ray. That is largely consistent with what I understood as well (along with the knowledge that I had not yet forgiven C from my heart). However, there were several elements of your comments that were new to me, and much appreciated -- particularly the 16 reference.

I have long recognized that study and prayer is the most productive, and in many respects the only, option available. But I also understand the warnings in Scripture against doubt and "double-mindedness" and appreciate His response to my continued prayers to "strengthen Thou my faith".

God bless,

Mark
 
Thank you Mark and Ray for posting those things. It was worth observing. Thank you both very much.
 
You are welcome. I believe that DECIDING to forgive is all we can do. Just as love is a decision, so is forgiveness. The heart and emotional aspect will come from God and with time. Along with lying something down at God's feet is deciding not to pick it up again. When we forgive, we must not speak anything negative about the person again. Then God will deal with them. If we do not forgive, then we retain the sin, (John 20:23) and get in God's way of dealing with the person who is out of order, (Romans 12:9-21). Something that I am sure you know, but some people who may read this may get confused about the Word where Jesus instructs us to bless our enemies and pray for those who abuse us, (Matthew 5:43-47). The ability to do these things is one of the signs that we have reached perfection, (Matthew 5:48). I believe that we must DECIDE to forgive, SPEAK it forth, PRAY the prayer of forgiveness, BLESS our enemy as the situation calls for and then LET IT GO. We are NOT called to lay down our lives for ‘our fellow man’ as some think. It is ONLY obedient Christians that we are called to lay our life down for, (John 15:9-17). We are not called to be door mats and continually present ourselves for abuse by our enemies or disobedient ‘Christians’. We should try to avoid those people as much as possible and hang out and communicate as much as possible only with obedient Christians, (Romans 16:17-18, I Corinthians 5:9-11, Galatians 6:10, II Thessalonians 3:14-15 and II John 10-11).

I pray and hope things work out for you as you desire. I know you love and miss her.

Be blessed,

Ray
 
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