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Hitting the news today.....

eternitee

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Some interesting articles floating around the internet today (and I followed the links to see where they took me too)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 ... ostpopular

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/articl ... ck_check=1

ABOUT THE AUTHORS
ROBERT R. CARGILL is an assistant professor of religious studies at the University of Iowa. KENNETH ATKINSON is an associate professor of history at the University of Northern Iowa. HECTOR AVALOS is a professor of religious studies at Iowa State University. Contact: HectorAvalos@aol.com.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... one-woman/

This article is from 2004, but has some intriguing ideas (prosecute the child pedophile not the polygamist who happens to be a pedophile for example):
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opi ... rley_x.htm
 
Interesting stuff. In my experience, most people are surprisingly tolerate. It's the intolerate people who feel the need to hide behind Scripture. Saying that everyone should be monogamous is - to me - as silly as telling everyone to be celebate or polygamous. I'd rather have no husband than two husbands. :lol:
 
Those WERE interesting. Thx,Eternitee

The first one made an interesting leap from accepting those forms or origins of marriage seen in the Bible to trying to justify the one that IS specifically prohibited ... gay males, Odd. David & Jonathon? Where's the proof on that one? *sigh*
 
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Ein minuten Bitte! "Jesus even encourages those who can to castrate themselves..."?!?

These "biblical scholars" are... *groan*. Ok, any average Joe Schmoe can see that in Matt 19:12 it says "Eunuchs". And it says that some were born, some were made by man and some were by choice. But let's look at what it actually says in basic English. "...and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs..." In fact, if you go to the Greek and look at the definitions, they are all there as listed in scripture:
  • An Emasculated Man: made by man (not self inflicted)
  • One Naturally Incapacitated: born that way (again, not self inflicted)
  • One who voluntarily abstains from marriage: by choice (not even inflicted at all)
Wow. Pray for these "scholars" so that they may know the truth.

If I'm off base, please correct me.

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In other news...
The Polygamist Eye for the Monogamist Guy or add a polygamist twist to Everyone Loves Raymond.
These made me chuckle, though. That was funny. :lol:
 
Pretty good article, Eternitee. Thx.
 
I enjoyed the article much more than I thought I would - considering the title "what sort of woman shares her husband?" It was very beautiful and really touched on the heart of polygamy. Thanks for sharing.
 
CecilW said:
Those WERE interesting. Thx, Eternitee.

The first one made an interesting leap from accepting those forms or origins of marriage seen in the Bible to trying to justify the one that IS specifically prohibited ... gay males, Odd. David & Jonathon? Where's the proof on that one? *sigh*

I've heard some of these arguments before... they have to do with the fact that David and Jonathan kissed, as well as other bits... Yeah, in a decidedly American context that could easily be interpreted in certain ways. However, it completely ignores the Biblical admonition to greet one another with a holy kiss, or that in many cultures people kiss as a form of greeting and/or farewell. Heck, when I was in Israel and being greeted for the first time by a complete stranger ( who was from France, btw ), I suddenly and quite unexpectedly had a cheek thrust towards my face for the expected ( by them ) kiss of greeting...
So we don't do that in the USA generally, it doesn't mean we can interpret their culture to fit with our cultural norms.
 
so I guess it is nice to know that we are not the only country where the government feels the need to be waaay too involved in peoples lives? :? :roll: :evil:
 
Good grief, that's awful! Where do you find this stuff Eternity? You have too much time on your hands :P .

That whole thing is very much like Islam, where sex outside of marriage means the guy gets off scott free or a very reduced sentence, but the woman (even if raped) gets a very high sentence or in some cases stoned. It's barbaric.
 
Good article. I liked some of the comments too.
 
DEAR ABBY: I'm a single woman who has had a string of unsuccessful relationships. When a man is into me, I'm not into him and vice versa.
I know the problem is mostly mine. I'm very independent. I don't want a man to consume my life -- just be a part of it. It seems like the men I date want to smother me.
My friends tell me that most women enjoy this. I hate it. I need a certain amount of time alone. I am attracted to manly men, but the ones who are attracted to me are either emotionally needy or they take longer to get ready to go anywhere than I do. It's frustrating.
I have met some men who would have been wonderful catches, but I felt nothing. I know friendship is the basis of all relationships, but physical attraction is important to me. A relationship won't work if I can't bring myself to be intimate with the person.
In all my years of dating, I have been in love only twice. Any help would be appreciated. -- LOST IN WASHINGTON STATE

DEAR LOST: I wish I had a magic lamp that would give you what you're looking for in a puff of smoke, but I don't. What I can offer is that you need to continue looking for someone who is as independent as you are, so you can find an attractive man whose needs are similar to yours.
Some couples find the process of dating a smooth and easy one. For others it's complicated, but not impossible. I agree that the basis of strong relationships is friendship and compatibility.

(http://news.yahoo.com/independent-woman ... 17972.html)


Dear Lost (Eternitee's response here),

Ever considered polygamy???????
 
thank you for sharing, this web site.
 
Well, I certainly agree with their assesment that what the bible has to say ablut marriage is not as black and white as even id like to believe, i disagree about the political aspect of it. Spiritual convictions should be the foundations of our politics. It is what holds up our integrity of spirit, allowing us as individuals to make consistent ethical decesions.

In regard to homosexuality, i think they are jumping the gun here. While they bring an important point to the debate, this does not translate automatically translate into an acceptance of gay marriage. They need to addresss all those area that are used against such and give some decent evidence supposed gay relationships such as David & Jonathan.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Dave and Johnny did have something going on. While someone did point out that kssing the cheek is cultural norm for that time, there are other passages that give me the impression of something more intimate to friendship. The bible isn't exactly subtle when it comes to sex. In my experience, it tends to be discreet. Quite honestly though i have never understood the problem with Homo. I can actually think of some good it could do for the present day (yes, i am a believer in overpopulation. Not because i don't think the earth can handle more of us however, but because humanity is too immature for there to safely be that much.) While i do not advocate it, i refuse to speak against it until understand why its evil if at all, otherwise I am no better than a Pharisee. More and more am leaning towards a more lenient view out of conviction as I study more, including those probem passages. It is interesting that almost all the negative references are given in the context of idolatry. You never see it mentioned on its own. I defintiley concur that there is something more than meets the eye.

Note: i apologize for my spelling. This was written from tablet.
 
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