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Gov. Mark Sanford

Doc

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Well, the big news in politics this week is Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina sneaking off to Argentina for a woman that he met. Apparently, this has been going on for about a year.

While not endorsing his behavior in the least, I would like to hear from different folks on the forum and get your take on the situation, strictly from a plural marriage perspective.

Blessings,
 
Hey Doc,

Man you are always such a news hound! I think this stuff is such a waste of human potential (not news hounding but the whole sneaking around thing) What a waste of people's lives thinking that you have to lie all the time and women wasting their lives loving men who are never going to make a commitment to them because the customs don't allow. It's funny, men (and I guess society in general) have concocted the idea that "people grow apart" and he "fell out of love with the wife" etc. to explain the natural inclination that men have to be with more than one woman. It's so inconvenient socially for a man to be commited to more than one woman cause of feminism that "serial monogamy" being ok is the only way to get around the inevitable! Don't know if that makes sense. I still need breakfast!
 
I've been preaching the idea of the strength and advantage of boldness.

If memory serves, a few years ago the press thought they'd uncovered a scandal with Jesse Jackson. Again, if memory serves, he merely held a press conference with his wife, family, mistress (de facto second wife) and child by her and said, "Yeah? So? I'm being an honorable man and meeting my responsibilities to everyone." End of scandal.

My advice to the governor (whom I immensely respect in the political world) would be to get his friend / mistress / de facto second wife, who his de jure wife has known about for some time according to the news, to come hang out with his family. Get her and his wife to let themselves be seen out shopping together and having lunch somewhere trendy and public. Let the papparazzi (sp?) catch a long shot or two of the lot of them hanging out all together on his back porch while he chars some poor hog's rib-cage, I mean, BBQ's a fine rack of baby-back ribs. State a personal commitment. And QUIT APOLOGIZING!

End of scandal. IMO.

Please note that no suggestion is being made that this is an intern in his office, nor a boy solicited at a public bathroom *shudder*, nor any other REALLY bothersome mess. Just a good relationship grown more. *shrug*

If anything, perhaps we should get in touch with him with these suggestions and start some sort of public, loud support for him/them. Perhaps send he and his wife AND the mistress (for a short, convenient term) an invite to Biblical Families. Better yet, is he / are they already on? :D
 
Cecil,

You dream big! It's great! Doc, do the honors of sending the offical Invites. Hey, he quoted Corinthians in one of his emails to the argentinian girl! He knows the bible ;)

Maria
 
Sure 'nuff, Doc! Invite 'em all to our next East Coast Retreat, to be held, unexpectedly and (more or less) immediately, in Charleston. :D Fire a poly shot at Ft. Sumter !!!

Added advantage: Charleston is home to Sticky Fingers ("Come Lick Our Bones!"), an extraordinary chain of BBQ restaurants. Why, their BBQ is so good that I, a lifelong, Nathan might call me "chronic" :lol: , vegetarian, go there at every opportunity and put their BBQ sauce on a baked potato! Yummm!
 
You guys ALL crack me up! :lol: And Cec, I think you need to be the guv's PR man. I think you'd do a way better job than some of the press secretaries we are having to endure currently.


I believe it was Rav Moshe who sent out the email about the President of I believe it was Malawi and the First Ladies!!! The news was all a-buzz about how on the world scene it was going to be handled that the guy was in a plural marriage. The sisters are all in their grooves, they love each other and trade off doing the hostess/spokeswoman thang, and I think it rocks.

Seriously, though, since I have become a 100% polymer, I have wondered if people like Bill Clinton, (who is not at all high on my list of fave guys) isn't just a patriarch who never got a chance to get the leadership training needed to both rule his household well and the nation to boot. Henry the VIII the same way. (But thank God that Billary didn't see the need to lop off Anne Boleyn's oops, Monica Lewenski's head and just has an ill placed DNA stain to add to his legacy rather than an execution... :? )

Wouldn't it be cool if the guv could still stay in the fight, and Miss Argentina and Mrs. Guv could indeed be seen working out at Curves together?
 
So, Doc!!! You going to do the honors? Or do I need to send Sir BumbleBerry as our Official Envoy?

He does look rather hilarious in formal dress. I tried to get him to wear a boutiniere. He tied a ribbon around 3 NORMAL sized lollipops and wore them. *sigh* Didn't last the evening. Looked kinda weird with three empty wrappers pinned to his tiny lapel. Said he didn't mind, he'd rather be out dragging wagons, um, trailers around the country with Steve anyway.

You know, maybe he WOULD help lighten up the mood over in the SC governor's office and home!

But on the whole, I'd rather have YOU contact him/them, issue an invitation, and open a dialogue, Doc. PLEASE?
 
I was just listening to Coulter on Hannity dissing Sanford. Got to thinking what a golden opportunity this is for the Republicans, though I'll be assablutely hornswoggled if they take advantage of it.

Folks all over the cdountry are getting sick of politicians with soupy fake "compassion" at taxpayer expense, without responsibility.

If Sanford and the Republicans would say, "This PM stuff, into which Sanford has inadvertantly fallen, is about both real, personal caring AND responsibility. We applaud him." I suspect folks would stop and think and turn positive. As to the e-mails -- since when did they become our business? Foul!
 
My advice to the governor (whom I immensely respect in the political world) would be to get his friend / mistress / de facto second wife, who his de jure wife has known about for some time according to the news, to come hang out with his family. Get her and his wife to let themselves be seen out shopping together and having lunch somewhere trendy and public. Let the papparazzi (sp?) catch a long shot or two of the lot of them hanging out all together...State a personal commitment. And QUIT APOLOGIZING!

End of scandal. IMO.
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That's good advice, so long as any such 'personal commitment' does NOT include actual Biblical "covering", Cecil! After all, anything that offends the Great Monogamy Idol will be punished even WORSE than a lil' ole affair!

(And the Henry VIII references always amuse me, too. Funny how he could take the Big Step of dissin' the Pope, and casting out the whole "Church", and yet still fail to take the logical next step: actually read the Bible and take another wife. Unlike the bad guys that Yeshua addressed in Matthew 5, I doubt Henry would've said he couldn't afford another one. And it would've saved several women their heads... :roll:

As for most of our other more "modern" politicians with a supposed 'patriarchal' stripe, I tend to suspect that they still confuse 'covering' with 'rape'. :twisted:
 
I guess we are al saying more or less the same thing. Poor boy needs to have the ladies meet and get over it and build a plural family and really give those good ol southern boys something other than Nascar to study! :mrgreen:
 
Mark said:
And the Henry VIII references always amuse me, too. Funny how he could take the Big Step of dissin' the Pope, and casting out the whole "Church", and yet still fail to take the logical next step: actually read the Bible and take another wife
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Actually, it occurred to Henry. From John Cairncross, "After Polygamy was made a Sin":
"Thus the commission given to Henry's first envoy to Rome included a dispensation to marry a second wife without being divorced from Catherine, because of the 'great reasons and precedents, especially in the Old Testament'". Clement declined, otherwise England might be Catholic to this day.
 
you got it, rav.
great one out of the box, itso
good posts all
now if we could just cure cecil's (a man who doesnt even eat meat! :lol: ) fixation on unclean meat :o ;)
 
steve said:
now if we could just cure cecil's (a man who doesnt even eat meat! :lol: ) fixation on unclean meat :o ;)
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What can I say? I got BBQ envy. No matter how I ask, they just refuse to BBQ me a rack of tofu-da-beest ribs. :lol:
 
BBQ sauce is the ONLY thing that makes tofu edible (ok, that is hyperbole)

just leave the pigs out of it, they call them swine for a reason :D
 
steve said:
BBQ sauce is the ONLY thing that makes tofu edible...
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You poor dear man. I'll just have to have a talk with Ali while she's down here. Why, I make tofu flat out delicious in so many ways it'd make your head spin.

To paraphrase Bubba, in Forrest Gump ...

There's Mushrooms with Tofo,
Asparagus & Garlic with Tofu,
Mushrooms, Olives, Garlic, Onions, vegetarian Sausage Crumbles, Soysauce, Olive Oil & Spaghetti Sauce with Tofu.
You got Tofu Jerky,
Creamy Tofu /Avocado Salad Dressing,
Tofu, olive oil, and caraway seeds scrambled with egg,
... and on and on and on ...

WAIT A MINUTE!!! WHAT DOES TOFU HAVE TO DO WITH GOVERNOR SANDORD'S DILEMMA? :o
 
I beat you all to it. I sent an email to Nathan7 yesterday suggesting that someone email him about our group. We could use someone high in the ranks to support our cause, eh?
 
[polygyny] occurred to Henry. From John Cairncross, "After Polygamy was made a Sin":
"Thus the commission given to Henry's first envoy to Rome included a dispensation to marry a second wife without being divorced from Catherine, because of the 'great reasons and precedents, especially in the Old Testament'". Clement declined, otherwise England might be Catholic to this day.
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Interesting, Nathan. But, if anything, that just deepens the mystery.

If Henry's envoy knew better, and the king then decided to dump the Catholic Church anyway and invent Anglicanism -- why NOT keep Catherine?

(Gov. Mark doesn't have the clout to create his own new church presumably, but I agree that it WOULD be refreshing to see him actually wax Biblical. Henry could've done so, and it could have been in the mode of correcting the Church's rejection of God's commandments in favor of their own traditions.)
 
If Henry would have stayed Catholic after that message and taken a second then that would mean that Catholisicm woul dhave condoned poly at the time and henceforth??? Don't understand how that possible-help.

I make a very nice barbeque tofu. Cecil I got some awesome recipes for you! Sorry can't spell barbique I'm cuban!
 
This post just might set the record for quotable quotes in one day.

Invite 'em all to our next East Coast Retreat, to be held, unexpectedly and (more or less) immediately, in Charleston. Fire a poly shot at Ft. Sumter !!!
Wouldn't it be cool if the guv could still stay in the fight, and Miss Argentina and Mrs. Guv could indeed be seen working out at Curves together?
Funny how he could take the Big Step of dissin' the Pope, and casting out the whole "Church", and yet still fail to take the logical next step: actually read the Bible and take another wife.
Poor boy needs to have the ladies meet and get over it and build a plural family and really give those good ol southern boys something other than Nascar to study!
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In the movie Clear and Present Danger, Jack tells the president what to say when the reporters ask if he was friends with someone who had been killed by drug dealers. The other advisors said to deny everything, and Jack said no, tell them “we were not just friends, we were the best of friends.”
Then the reporters had nothing else to report on. The president admitted they were the best of friend, no more dirt, no more story to tell. This is what the Gov needs to do. Just come out with all of it, say that he loves them both, and that his wife knows about all of it. Look what happened to the other governor that was outed as a homosexual and had his conference with his wife. It fizzled out quickly.
DeeAnn says if he used taxpayer funds for those trips, that is not cool.
 
Wow! I didn't realize I would generate this much interest! I guess others had been thinking on the same lines....

Blessings,
 
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