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Britain Is Now a Totalitarian State

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Britain Is Now a Totalitarian State​



We can safely declare, without exaggeration or hyperbole, that Britain is now a totalitarian state. The ruling machine may not yet have the absolute control that Stalin did, but it's not for lack of trying. The British government's hysterical Chicken Little response to online support for this past week's rioting is proof enough for anyone paying attention that it attaches no value whatsoever to Western principles like freedom of speech and freedom of conscience.


Here's a video of an elderly man being arrested in his home for "improper use" of social media for "some comments that [he] made" on his Facebook page. The two Stasi thugs masquerading as police officers are doing the dirty work for a government that, not too long ago, declared that "just following orders" was not an excuse for human rights violations. And yet...

This is where Britain is now, and if there's a definition for it other than "totalitarian," I'm open for suggestions.

The British government's push to criminalize all speech and thought that runs counter to state ideology didn't just begin this past week. In February 2019, a street preacher was arrested in Enfield for preaching Christianity in a Muslim neighborhood. In February 2021, two men were arrested in south London for distributing flyers critical of COVID vaccines. In March 2023, a woman was arrested in Birmingham for silently praying outside an abortion clinic.

But Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley, who thinks criticism of mass immigration equates "hate" and "terrorism," had no qualms about letting a pro-Hamas rally march through London after the 10/7 attacks last year, and on Armistice Day no less.

The dictatorial drive being pursued by the British ruling class doesn't fall neatly into a category that Hannah Arendt would recognize as totalitarian. This is because none of the typical totalitarian movements (communism, socialism, fascism, Nazism, and Islamism) are suicidal in nature. Meaning, each of these movements attempts to use the state to strengthen the ideology, or to use the ideology to strengthen the state.


But the British totalitarian state is different. Its goal is to weaken the British state by strengthening the ideology. What defines the parameters of that ideology is anyone's guess, as I doubt even its proponents could clearly explain it for inquiring minds. It seems to be a contradictory mix of pseudo-Marxism, nanny statism, multiculturalism grounded in misplaced guilt, and the managed decline of both national regeneration and national will that is the inevitable result of each of the preceding factors.

In other words, we now have a new totalitarianism with a new ideology, one based not on class, race, nation, or religion. Or rather, at least not its own. It's more of an ideological vacuum, nihilistic in nature, and its goal is the intentional dissolution of itself.

Hitler wasn't an Austrian who believed in Jewish supremacy. Stalin wasn't a proletariat who believed in the rule of the bourgeoisie. Mussolini wasn't an Italian who believed in Albanian empire. But the British Left, like all Western Leftists, thinks its own civilization unworthy of existence, and is now harnessing the power of the state to destroy it. They're mad they lost the Great Game, and they want to kill the victor out of spite. They don't care which "group" or "class" arises from the ashes, so long as it's not anything you'd recognize as British.

The British rioters have been deemed "far-right" by the state apparatus, and you know what that means. It means the state will be relentless and ruthless in tracking down every single one of them and prosecuting them to the fullest extent of whatever arbitrary interpretation is used to stretch and twist the law this particular week. Their crime is not rioting. Their crime is running afoul of state ideology. The J6 defendants could offer them some legal advice.


Riots far more destructive and murderous occur on the regular by coordinated elements that an honest media would accurately describe as "far-left" or "Islamist," but instead are described by our palace eunuchs as "mostly peaceful." Had the British rioters waved a Palestinian flag or two, Kamala Harris could start a fund to bail them out.

Much like Stalin dispatching Trotsky in Mexico, or a Moroccan gutting Theo van Gogh on the streets of Amsterdam, the totalitarian mindset is nothing if not global in outlook. You might not be interested British virtue signaling, but British virtue signaling is interested in you. Hence, we have Elon Musk, an American citizen on American soil under the protection of the American Bill of Rights, being threatened with prosecution by UK authorities for posting opinions on the social feed of his own company.

And what horrific crimes did Elon commit that raise the specter of a possible extradition request? According to that insufferable socialist rag, the U.K. Independent, he "launched a tirade" on his platform X against Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

ELON LAUNCHED A TIRADE!!!

But that's not all. He used his platform to "...attack Sir Keir personally..."

ELON MADE A PERSONAL ATTACK!!!

"...as he appeared to fan the flames of discontent..."

ELON FANNED THE FLAMES!!!

...in an "apparently unprovoked attack on Starmer and the UK government"...


FIRST A PERSONAL ATTACK, NOW AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK!!!

As far as "unprovoked attacks" go, there seem to be a lot of them going around in the West nowadays, don't there? Any number of British girls, French priests, Dutch artists, and Florida gays could attest to that. Odd that the only "unprovoked attack" that British authorities are concerned about is the one that was entirely verbal and completely harmless.

Politico reports that Musk "could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs" for his "abusive" messages.

SUMMONED FOR A GRILLING!!! Elon must be chewing his fingernails down to the nubs.

Two Labour MPs are demanding that Elon appear before Parliament to answer for his behavior. Um...Mr. Musk could buy your island if he wanted to. And judging by how effortlessly it's already going to Muslim immigrants with no tangible gain, the going price is evidently pretty cheap.

But lest you mistake their threats to Musk as just some high visibility posturing, the Brits took pains to clarify that they mean you too. British government prosecutor Stephen Parkinson threatened social media influencers overseas for "playing a role in the violent disorder," yapping that they "must know that they are not safe and there is nowhere to hide." Continuing, he said, "Some people are abroad. That doesn't mean they're safe." He continued that "we would certainly consider extradition" if he deemed British law had been broken.


The aforementioned Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News that if you post commentary online that doesn't comply with British law, they'll seek your arrest whether your are in England or "further afield online." When asked to clarify as to whether this means the British will seek arrest from citizens in other countries, he responded, "Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law."

You refuse to protect your own grade school girls from getting raped by the hundreds by organized gangs of Pakistani Muslims in your own country that even Al-Jazeera opposed, but you'll come after me for criticizing it online or on the other side of the planet? Are you incapable of shame? Are you that tiny of a man? You sniveling, bootlicking, banal, insipid cog in the machine.

Not like I'm worried you'll ever show up to haul me off to gaol. That's right, Sir Mark Rowley, your bluff is being called by Commoner C.A. Skeet. Put down your tea and come get me, you wanker. Where would you wanna meet up? Lexington? Concord? Yorktown?

You wanna see riots? Try stealing an American citizen off American soil for exercising hi/her First Amendment rights. Then you'll see riots. Good luck making it back to the airport. As you well know, we also have other amendments...

And therein lies the problem with an insecure, timid totalitarianism that has no respect for itself. Nobody else will respect it either. The classical totalitarian systems exerted their will through sheer brute force. Their ideological justifications were simply fodder for the Western press, as everybody except the Western press understood.


But the idea that Britain could force a sovereign nation to extradite one of their own for an action that was completely legal in that nation would be comical if it wasn't so arrogant. Britain couldn't coerce Fiji to give someone up, and they think it's gonna happen in America?

Keir, Rowley, and their ilk want the fear and trembling that the likes of Mao and Castro were able to instill, but they lack the stature, the ability, and the confidence. Rowley in particular comes across not as a strongman to be feared, but as a playground brat throwing a tantrum because nobody was cowed by his bullying attempts, while the older, bigger kids snicker.

Or Jimminy Cricket huffing and puffing and wagging his finger at Lampwick.

Or Sir Robin bravely running away.

Gosh, there are just so many metaphors.

So Britain has gone totalitarian, and in a convoluted way that leaves it a credible threat to nobody but itself. As Rick Moran pointed out on these pages, a majority of British subjects are apparently all on board with relinquishing free speech to their self-declared betters. And just think that their ancestors bequeathed us the Magna Carta, checked the expansion of the bloody French Revolution, and helped defeat the Third Reich. And now they're returning to the manor as willing serfs. The whole thing is just sad.
 
...Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News that if you post commentary online that doesn't comply with British law, they'll seek your arrest whether your are in England or "further afield online." When asked to clarify as to whether this means the British will seek arrest from citizens in other countries, he responded, "Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law."

...You wanna see riots? Try stealing an American citizen off American soil for exercising hi/her First Amendment rights. Then you'll see riots. Good luck making it back to the airport. As you well know, we also have other amendments...
Would that that was true, @MeganC.

This was the part that particularly caught my attention. The Orwellian British State is essentially saying, 'the hell with 'jurisdiction', sovereignty, or your Bill of Rights: We will come get you.'

I would have expected ANY candidate for president of this country to have said, "OVER OUR DEAD bodies you will! You come here trying to take an American to be held for so-called crimes, know in advance that is an act of war."

But - we all know it: This illegitimate regime in the Swamp will do their dirty work FOR them, and their captive press will lie about it, and demonize the victim. Just like we've already seen.
 
The Orwellian British State is essentially saying, 'the hell with 'jurisdiction', sovereignty, or your Bill of Rights: We will come get you.'

Noted. Which is why I am now lobbying for the UK to be kicked out of NATO.

The UK as it stands is currently in violation of two of NATO's five expectations for membership:


New members must uphold democracy, which includes tolerating diversity.
New members must be in the midst of making progress toward a market economy.

The nations' military forces must be under firm, civilian control.

The nations must be good neighbors and respect sovereignty outside their borders.

The nations must be working toward compatibility with NATO forces.
 
New members must uphold democracy, which includes tolerating diversity.

Not that "demonocracy," aka "the Devil's own government," and "two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner" - as the Founders knew, is anything worth fighting for.

And no-longer-great Britain IS tolerant. Just as the Left defines it. And they may just kill you if you don't agree.
 
And they may just kill you if you don't agree.

If they try to kill me I'll try to kill them right back. So should everyone else. Including people in the UK.

This quote comes to mind:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
 
@MeganC
If this topic, IE the destruction of the UK is of interest to you over and above the most recent shenanigans, I highly recommend watching a channel on youtube or rumble called The Lotus Eaters.
All British doing political analysis at a high but entertaining level and dripping with delightful sarcasm, irony as well as the traditional dry British humor.


We will have you making Enoch Powell memes in not time

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I'll try it again. ;)
 
UK is officially broken from today. Death itself will have to wait a little (maybe few decades).

Anyway, there were riots in Britain few days ago. State has decided to release several hundred criminals from prison to make place for "keyboard warriors" (read: people commenting on Facebook and Twitter).

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Someone recommended that to me before and I am sorry to admit that most of what they were talking about I could not understand.
Don't understand the content or the accents?
 
The UK itself is not a danger to anybody else, they're busy destroying themselves.
However, the example the UK is setting is a great danger to every other Western country, whose elites may choose to follow suit. Particularly the Commonwealth and Europe.
 
It’s not coming to America…. ITS ALREADY HERE. While I have my days where I get tired of the slow progression into chaos, I know that it is a blessing and an opportunity. Every day is another day to prepare my land, family, and food preps. We would manage ok if it happened today, but there’s no such thing as too prepared. I’ve given up on waking people up or even trying to figure out who “they” are, and what their reasons are for wanting to destroy our lives. It doesn’t matter much. They will be exposed eventually.
 
It’s not coming to America…. ITS ALREADY HERE. While I have my days where I get tired of the slow progression into chaos, I know that it is a blessing and an opportunity. Every day is another day to prepare my land, family, and food preps. We would manage ok if it happened today, but there’s no such thing as too prepared. I’ve given up on waking people up or even trying to figure out who “they” are, and what their reasons are for wanting to destroy our lives. It doesn’t matter much. They will be exposed eventually.

Based prepper has entered the chat
 
Revolutions have been fought and won with less than 10% of the people supporting them.

With roughly 1/3 supporting standing against the regime the UK is in for deep doo doo if they double down and attack the people who dissent from the globalist party line.

Most of those folks in the red zone are going to do exactly nothing during a revolution. A fair percentage will join in at the outset and a larger cohort will join in if victory is in sight for the opposition.

The UK police will oppose the citizenry. No doubt. And afterwards they'll face summary justice and a short drop in the gallows.

But what will the military do?
 

Britain Is Now a Totalitarian State​



We can safely declare, without exaggeration or hyperbole, that Britain is now a totalitarian state. The ruling machine may not yet have the absolute control that Stalin did, but it's not for lack of trying. The British government's hysterical Chicken Little response to online support for this past week's rioting is proof enough for anyone paying attention that it attaches no value whatsoever to Western principles like freedom of speech and freedom of conscience.


Here's a video of an elderly man being arrested in his home for "improper use" of social media for "some comments that [he] made" on his Facebook page. The two Stasi thugs masquerading as police officers are doing the dirty work for a government that, not too long ago, declared that "just following orders" was not an excuse for human rights violations. And yet...

This is where Britain is now, and if there's a definition for it other than "totalitarian," I'm open for suggestions.

The British government's push to criminalize all speech and thought that runs counter to state ideology didn't just begin this past week. In February 2019, a street preacher was arrested in Enfield for preaching Christianity in a Muslim neighborhood. In February 2021, two men were arrested in south London for distributing flyers critical of COVID vaccines. In March 2023, a woman was arrested in Birmingham for silently praying outside an abortion clinic.

But Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley, who thinks criticism of mass immigration equates "hate" and "terrorism," had no qualms about letting a pro-Hamas rally march through London after the 10/7 attacks last year, and on Armistice Day no less.

The dictatorial drive being pursued by the British ruling class doesn't fall neatly into a category that Hannah Arendt would recognize as totalitarian. This is because none of the typical totalitarian movements (communism, socialism, fascism, Nazism, and Islamism) are suicidal in nature. Meaning, each of these movements attempts to use the state to strengthen the ideology, or to use the ideology to strengthen the state.


But the British totalitarian state is different. Its goal is to weaken the British state by strengthening the ideology. What defines the parameters of that ideology is anyone's guess, as I doubt even its proponents could clearly explain it for inquiring minds. It seems to be a contradictory mix of pseudo-Marxism, nanny statism, multiculturalism grounded in misplaced guilt, and the managed decline of both national regeneration and national will that is the inevitable result of each of the preceding factors.

In other words, we now have a new totalitarianism with a new ideology, one based not on class, race, nation, or religion. Or rather, at least not its own. It's more of an ideological vacuum, nihilistic in nature, and its goal is the intentional dissolution of itself.

Hitler wasn't an Austrian who believed in Jewish supremacy. Stalin wasn't a proletariat who believed in the rule of the bourgeoisie. Mussolini wasn't an Italian who believed in Albanian empire. But the British Left, like all Western Leftists, thinks its own civilization unworthy of existence, and is now harnessing the power of the state to destroy it. They're mad they lost the Great Game, and they want to kill the victor out of spite. They don't care which "group" or "class" arises from the ashes, so long as it's not anything you'd recognize as British.

The British rioters have been deemed "far-right" by the state apparatus, and you know what that means. It means the state will be relentless and ruthless in tracking down every single one of them and prosecuting them to the fullest extent of whatever arbitrary interpretation is used to stretch and twist the law this particular week. Their crime is not rioting. Their crime is running afoul of state ideology. The J6 defendants could offer them some legal advice.


Riots far more destructive and murderous occur on the regular by coordinated elements that an honest media would accurately describe as "far-left" or "Islamist," but instead are described by our palace eunuchs as "mostly peaceful." Had the British rioters waved a Palestinian flag or two, Kamala Harris could start a fund to bail them out.

Much like Stalin dispatching Trotsky in Mexico, or a Moroccan gutting Theo van Gogh on the streets of Amsterdam, the totalitarian mindset is nothing if not global in outlook. You might not be interested British virtue signaling, but British virtue signaling is interested in you. Hence, we have Elon Musk, an American citizen on American soil under the protection of the American Bill of Rights, being threatened with prosecution by UK authorities for posting opinions on the social feed of his own company.

And what horrific crimes did Elon commit that raise the specter of a possible extradition request? According to that insufferable socialist rag, the U.K. Independent, he "launched a tirade" on his platform X against Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

ELON LAUNCHED A TIRADE!!!

But that's not all. He used his platform to "...attack Sir Keir personally..."

ELON MADE A PERSONAL ATTACK!!!

"...as he appeared to fan the flames of discontent..."

ELON FANNED THE FLAMES!!!

...in an "apparently unprovoked attack on Starmer and the UK government"...


FIRST A PERSONAL ATTACK, NOW AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK!!!

As far as "unprovoked attacks" go, there seem to be a lot of them going around in the West nowadays, don't there? Any number of British girls, French priests, Dutch artists, and Florida gays could attest to that. Odd that the only "unprovoked attack" that British authorities are concerned about is the one that was entirely verbal and completely harmless.

Politico reports that Musk "could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs" for his "abusive" messages.

SUMMONED FOR A GRILLING!!! Elon must be chewing his fingernails down to the nubs.

Two Labour MPs are demanding that Elon appear before Parliament to answer for his behavior. Um...Mr. Musk could buy your island if he wanted to. And judging by how effortlessly it's already going to Muslim immigrants with no tangible gain, the going price is evidently pretty cheap.

But lest you mistake their threats to Musk as just some high visibility posturing, the Brits took pains to clarify that they mean you too. British government prosecutor Stephen Parkinson threatened social media influencers overseas for "playing a role in the violent disorder," yapping that they "must know that they are not safe and there is nowhere to hide." Continuing, he said, "Some people are abroad. That doesn't mean they're safe." He continued that "we would certainly consider extradition" if he deemed British law had been broken.


The aforementioned Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News that if you post commentary online that doesn't comply with British law, they'll seek your arrest whether your are in England or "further afield online." When asked to clarify as to whether this means the British will seek arrest from citizens in other countries, he responded, "Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law."

You refuse to protect your own grade school girls from getting raped by the hundreds by organized gangs of Pakistani Muslims in your own country that even Al-Jazeera opposed, but you'll come after me for criticizing it online or on the other side of the planet? Are you incapable of shame? Are you that tiny of a man? You sniveling, bootlicking, banal, insipid cog in the machine.

Not like I'm worried you'll ever show up to haul me off to gaol. That's right, Sir Mark Rowley, your bluff is being called by Commoner C.A. Skeet. Put down your tea and come get me, you wanker. Where would you wanna meet up? Lexington? Concord? Yorktown?

You wanna see riots? Try stealing an American citizen off American soil for exercising hi/her First Amendment rights. Then you'll see riots. Good luck making it back to the airport. As you well know, we also have other amendments...

And therein lies the problem with an insecure, timid totalitarianism that has no respect for itself. Nobody else will respect it either. The classical totalitarian systems exerted their will through sheer brute force. Their ideological justifications were simply fodder for the Western press, as everybody except the Western press understood.


But the idea that Britain could force a sovereign nation to extradite one of their own for an action that was completely legal in that nation would be comical if it wasn't so arrogant. Britain couldn't coerce Fiji to give someone up, and they think it's gonna happen in America?

Keir, Rowley, and their ilk want the fear and trembling that the likes of Mao and Castro were able to instill, but they lack the stature, the ability, and the confidence. Rowley in particular comes across not as a strongman to be feared, but as a playground brat throwing a tantrum because nobody was cowed by his bullying attempts, while the older, bigger kids snicker.

Or Jimminy Cricket huffing and puffing and wagging his finger at Lampwick.

Or Sir Robin bravely running away.

Gosh, there are just so many metaphors.

So Britain has gone totalitarian, and in a convoluted way that leaves it a credible threat to nobody but itself. As Rick Moran pointed out on these pages, a majority of British subjects are apparently all on board with relinquishing free speech to their self-declared betters. And just think that their ancestors bequeathed us the Magna Carta, checked the expansion of the bloody French Revolution, and helped defeat the Third Reich. And now they're returning to the manor as willing serfs. The whole thing is just sad.
And that’s just the tip of the ice burg.

only 20% of the population voted for this current government, not to mention they won by default as everyone was fed up of the previous government.

We have the highest tax burden since the Second World War with one of the world’s most complicated tax codes. After you have been taxed you then have a high cost of living. Regulation is excessive and the way it’s going you’ll need a permit to build a sand castle.

We home school and they are determined to make it illegal. They have pushed for this in the past on a number of occasions but failed. The irony is that the education system is crumbling and they can’t even care for the kids they have, but if you choose a different route they want to ban that.

Only 4% of home break in lead to prosecution and around 7% of knife crimes get a conviction. Defending yourself could land you in court if they decide you used to much force.

Sadly we don’t have a constitution to stand upon.

Lotus eaters are the best we have in the UK and worth listening to. I prefer Crosspolitic which is based in the US.

I don’t have anything nice to say about the UK. There’s a reason why so many are leaving.
 
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